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bluerob9000

macman wrote: »

It's not a boiler, it's an immersion heater. This should also be set to run on night rate, as if the tank is properly insulated, a full tank should keep hot all day.
I don't think you've grasped how to use E7 metering

Ok the immersion heater which is in the cupboard, we don't use it hence why it's turned off, no point having it on if we don't use it is there?

bluerob9000

molerat wrote: »

NSHs are designed to be switched on and left over winter with maybe only minor adjustments to the input dial. If they are coming on out of off peak it suggests they are wired incorrectly - they should be connected directly to the off peak circuit - and consequently could be very expensive to run. Have you checked your off peak timings as, if on an old dial timer, they could be way off your area actual times. Do you own or rent ?

Thanks for that, we rent.

macman

Comparing to usage downstairs is futile, unless you know exactly how they heat and hot water their flat. If they have panel heaters running in the day then they are probably not on an E7 tariff. Or are you saying that their usage on both day and night rate is half of yours?
You say that you don't use the NSH's during the day, but the fact remains that something is burning a lot of power on day rate-that is why your bill is so high. Forget the TV, fridge, freezer etc, because it's heating and hot water that account for maybe 80% of your usage.
The reason I asked you to clarify how you heat your hot water was because, if it's not the NSH's that are running on day rate, then it can only be something with a high wattage that is clocking up the day units-and that would only leave something like an immersion heater-unless you left an oven or fan heater running for hours.
You have jumped (as many do when faced with high consumption), to the conclusion that the meter must be faulty, but there is no real evidence to support this-so you need to rule out other possibilities first.
And the first priority is to get the LL to sort out the NSH and immersion circuits.

Robin9

If your Immersion Heater is the two element type then it is best used with the main element ON ie heating up at night on the offpeak rate.

Your wife's bath uses the boost switch and at the high daytime rate.

bluerob9000

macman wrote: »

Comparing to usage downstairs is futile, unless you know exactly how they heat and hot water their flat. If they have panel heaters running in the day then they are probably not on an E7 tariff. Or are you saying that their usage on both day and night rate is half of yours?
You say that you don't use the NSH's during the day, but the fact remains that something is burning a lot of power on day rate-that is why your bill is so high. Forget the TV, fridge, freezer etc, because it's heating and hot water that account for maybe 80% of your usage.
The reason I asked you to clarify how you heat your hot water was because, if it's not the NSH's that are running on day rate, then it can only be something with a high wattage that is clocking up the day units-and that would only leave something like an immersion heater-unless you left an oven or fan heater running for hours.
You have jumped (as many do when faced with high consumption), to the conclusion that the meter must be faulty, but there is no real evidence to support this-so you need to rule out other possibilities first.
And the first priority is to get the LL to sort out the NSH and immersion circuits.

Thanks for that, appreciate the input.

Downstairs have exactly the same as we do, as the property has been converted into 2 flats from one bigger house. They have the same storage heaters and same boiler as we do. We checked there readings with them, and they are using less units than us, but they have the heaters on longer than us, and they use more electricity throughout the day because they are at home where as we aren't.

They have an Economy 7 meter and they are on an economy 7 tariff with there energy supplier.

Myself and the other half are very consious about switching everything off. I think we've had the boiler on 3 times since we moved in but for no more than an hour.

I've compared times etc with downstairs use they have there boiler turned on all the time, but its timed to come on at night, where as ours is off all of the time.

I'll speak with the landlord and do some more tests on the meter to see if i can find some more information out.

bluerob9000

Robin9 wrote: »

If your Immersion Heater is the two element type then it is best used with the main element ON ie heating up at night on the offpeak rate.

Your wife's bath uses the boost switch and at the high daytime rate.

It's an old boiler, so it's either on or off there's no boost option. But it does have a timer. But we leave the boiler turned off now.

Haylescom

My old house had E7, storage heaters, immersion etc. Your wife turning it on as and when she needs a bath will be costing a lot of money! If it has a timer you are better off leaving on and setting the timer so it heats for a few hours during the cheap rate (midnight-7am usually) and the water will stay hot for when you need it. Turning it off when you are isn't saving you money.
Our heaters had wall switches and switches with the meter as well but these only heated when the night rate kicked in. If that's not happening then they can't be set up correctly.

Robin9

"It's an old boiler, so it's either on or off there's no boost option. But it does have a timer. But we leave the boiler turned off now."

Leave it ON but check that its timer coincides with the off peak times.

bluerob9000

There's not much point turning the boiler on if we hardly ever use any hot water is there?

Robin9

Do you wash in cold water; do the washing up in cold water ?