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E.ON_Company_Representative:_Helena

Thank you bluerob9000 for the extra information.

molerat is correct that if the meter is all okay we would charge for the appointment.

You're doing the right thing by doing some checks.

Check the meter serial number on your meter matches that on your bill.

If you can take some regular reads each day for a week, you may see a spike.

Are the day and the night rates being billed the correct way round, you can check by reading the meter in the morning, then boiling the kettle and read again, this will show the rate that's recording the day.

Thanks again.

Helena

Cardew

bluerob9000 wrote: »

We already pay via direct debit. We don't use the boiler or very very limited use, if we want hot water it's only for washing up so we just boil the kettle.

I assume you mean the Hot water tank with immersion heater?

If you only need hot water for washing up, how do you wash/bathe/shower?

molerat

Cardew wrote: »

I assume you mean the Hot water tank with immersion heater?

If you only need hot water for washing up, how do you wash/bathe/shower?

A lot of people underestimate the cost of 20 minutes under their 9 kW shower :eek:

bluerob9000

molerat wrote: »

High day use and low(ish) night use considering storage heating - a small NSH can use 12kWh a night, a large one 24. Are you using panel heaters or possibly convectors on the storage heaters ?

Only using the storage heaters, they are the old old versions with just the 2 dials on the top. And only using them at night.

But it would seem that we only go onto the night rating at midnight, so we generally get home around and start using stuff, so thats about 3-4 hours a day were using the day rate for the actual evening stuff.

bluerob9000

E.ON_Company_Representative:_Helena wrote: »

Thank you bluerob9000 for the extra information.

molerat is correct that if the meter is all okay we would charge for the appointment.

You're doing the right thing by doing some checks.

Check the meter serial number on your meter matches that on your bill.

If you can take some regular reads each day for a week, you may see a spike.

Are the day and the night rates being billed the correct way round, you can check by reading the meter in the morning, then boiling the kettle and read again, this will show the rate that's recording the day.

Thanks again.

Helena

I've checked the serial number and it is correct.

We are currently (apparently) using roughly same amount of energy at night as we are during the day, because of the timings on the switch over on the meter, it changes at around midnight. When we are in bed asleep.

But with the storage heaters, if you leave them turned on at the wall, they come on straight away. Aren't you meant to be able to turn them on at the wall and they only come on when the meter clicks onto the cheaper rate??

bluerob9000

Cardew wrote: »

I assume you mean the Hot water tank with immersion heater?

If you only need hot water for washing up, how do you wash/bathe/shower?

The boiler is always turned off, only gets turned on when the missus wants a bath, which isnt very often.

The shower is electric so no need to turn the boiler on for an hour just for a 10 minute shower.

macman

All depends how they have been wired. If they run outside the cheap hours, then they will cost you a fortune, at least 3 times the night rate. Running them on day rate is absurd and pointless.
Of course you pay a premium rate for day usage, that's the downside of the cheap E7 night rate.
Your excessive day usage is the cause of the large bill, as the same no. of units are probably accounting for 75% of your bill.

macman

bluerob9000 wrote: »

The boiler is always turned off, only gets turned on when the missus wants a bath, which isnt very often.

The shower is electric so no need to turn the boiler on for an hour just for a 10 minute shower.

It's not a boiler, it's an immersion heater. This should also be set to run on night rate, as if the tank is properly insulated, a full tank should keep hot all day.
I don't think you've grasped how to use E7 metering

molerat

bluerob9000 wrote: »

I've checked the serial number and it is correct.

We are currently (apparently) using roughly same amount of energy at night as we are during the day, because of the timings on the switch over on the meter, it changes at around midnight. When we are in bed asleep.

But with the storage heaters, if you leave them turned on at the wall, they come on straight away. Aren't you meant to be able to turn them on at the wall and they only come on when the meter clicks onto the cheaper rate??

NSHs are designed to be switched on and left over winter with maybe only minor adjustments to the input dial. If they are coming on out of off peak it suggests they are wired incorrectly - they should be connected directly to the off peak circuit - and consequently could be very expensive to run. Have you checked your actual off peak switch timings as, if on an old dial timer, they could be way off your area published times. Do you own or rent ?

bluerob9000

macman wrote: »

All depends how they have been wired. If they run outside the cheap hours, then they will cost you a fortune, at least 3 times the night rate. Running them on day rate is absurd and pointless.
Of course you pay a premium rate for day usage, that's the downside of the cheap E7 night rate.
Your excessive day usage is the cause of the large bill, as the same no. of units are probably accounting for 75% of your bill.

We don't run the heaters on the day rate.

My point is that we are both out all day everyday, apart from weekends and we only use no more than any other average person in the evening eg. TV, fridge, freezer etc etc.

BUT... the couple who live downstairs are in during the day and would in theory use more energy than us, they actually use half of the amount that we have used according to the meter, and they have heaters on, separate heaters on etc and are using lights and TV's throughout the day.

So how is the below property using half of what we use when they are in all day and we are using more according to the meter when we don't use as much as them. Because we aren't at home.