Don't be a 2016 Remoaner - voting Brexit was our finest hour

Ballard

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Won't be long now before Trump takes the headlines with his actions. Brexit will be a sideshow.

That'll be something that the vast majority of us will get the (Tr)'ump about I suppose.

StevieJ

Sapphire wrote: »

Agree. I have not felt such elation and optimism for a long time as I did after the vote.

I do, however, feel utter contempt and disgust (and some surprise), at the many attempts that have been made to overturn the democratic vote since then.

You mean by having a equally democratic 2nd referendum, now that a lot of the worms have climbed out of the wood, and people should be more conscious of what they are voting for?

Matt_L

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean by having a equally democratic 2nd referendum, now that a lot of the worms have climbed out of the wood, and people should be more conscious of what they are voting for?

There won't be a 2nd referendum but as a leave voter id be happy to have one tomorrow safe in the knowledge that leave would win by a much much bigger margin...

Sapphire

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean by having a equally democratic 2nd referendum, now that a lot of the worms have climbed out of the wood, and people should be more conscious of what they are voting for?

You see, that's the problem – the remainosaurs cannot accept the democratic vote and persist in stating that those who voted Leave did not know what they were voting for (this is generally accompanied by rhetoric to the effect that Leave voters are 'stupid', etc).

Let me assure you that everyone I know who voted Leave thought about it very deeply and knew exactly what they were voting for and what the repercussions could be. In fact, I'd say that since the people I know who voted thus are widely travelled, have a lot of knowledge about many things and are used to researching issues of various kinds, they are more aware about the various topics involved than the remainosaurs I know, one of whom, in my family, stated that he'd voted remain because he 'might not be able to travel in Europe' – but said that he must find out more about the entire subject, i.e. after voting! :T:rotfl:

Let me also assure you that no one I know who voted Leave has changed their mind – and in fact several remain voters I also know have done so after being horrified at the rhetoric emanating from the EU 'leaders' and realising more fully just what the EU intended as regards countries' sovereignty and democracy in general. To some people these are issues that matter more than anything else.

BobQ

I agree it is time to move on.

Unfortunately many on the winning side of the referendum seem to want to continue using abusive terms (like those used above). They see any comments about the future that do not show unqualified support for Brexit as heretical and call them undemocratic. There is no democracy that requires undying support from the vanquished for the views of the majority.

Thrugelmir

Ballard wrote: »

That'll be something that the vast majority of us will get the (Tr)'ump about I suppose.

Trump will be US policy centric. The UK will merely be a bystander caught in the bow waves.

katejo

Matt_L wrote: »

Strange that because those few that i knew who voted remain totally regret doing so and would be happy to go back and change their vote. They see the lies from the remain side (project fear 2) and can't believe how badly they were lied to...

I have not come across a single person who regrets voting Remain. Which world do you live in? You are being conned in a big way.

Graham_Devon

gfplux wrote: »

Britain has not left the EU. Perhaps if it had six months ago the situation would be very different.
However Britain is leaving and while we prepare to leave we should remember any good economic news reflects our present membership of the EU.
In three months time PM May has promised to give formal notice. I am sure the good news will continue to flow until we leave early in 2019.

All the indicators in the UK have been BETTER than the equivalent indicators across the EU.

So how can you lay our performance at the door of the EU?

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

You mean by having a equally democratic 2nd referendum, now that a lot of the worms have climbed out of the wood, and people should be more conscious of what they are voting for?

I, like you, feel that a second referendum would see remain win.

However, what would happen on a 3rd? It's highly likely leave would win as people see that absolutely nothing has changed, and, infact, the EU would very likely take the opporunity to place more EU dictat on us due to the vote.

Therefore, when do we stop having referendums?

Matt_L

katejo wrote: »

I have not come across a single person who regrets voting Remain. Which world do you live in? You are being conned in a big way.

You need to get out more, life doesn't have to be so lonely;)