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Why are leavers so angry

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  • Matt_L
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    katejo wrote: »
    I was going to ask the same question but you beat me to it. I cannot guess what on earth he is so happy about (given all the lies and potential loss of jobs/increasing prices/expected travel restrictions and all the rest).
    I doubt it is worth waiting for a sensible answer....

    This sounds like another angry remain voter, be happy and rejoice in your liberation :beer:
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."
  • CLAPTON
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    EU citizenship....

    I guess you are free to define 'citizenship' in any way you wish but many would see it as being a member of a sovereign state
    Citizenship - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship
    Citizenship is the status of a person recognized under the custom or law as being a legal member of a sovereign state. A person may have multiple citizenships and a person who does not have citizenship of any state is said to be stateless.
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    I guess you are free to define 'citizenship' in any way you wish but many would see it as being a member of a sovereign state
    Although as we have a monarchy in the U.K. we are subjects not citizens.
  • CLAPTON wrote: »
    I guess you are free to define 'citizenship' in any way you wish but many would see it as being a member of a sovereign state

    Any person who holds the nationality of an EU country is automatically also an EU citizen.

    EU citizenship is additional to national citizenship and confers a number of rights on the holder, such as the ability to live and work freely in any EU member state.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • katejo
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    Matt_L wrote: »
    I am happy that we as a nation decided to leave the EU, I'm happy that i finally see the bright future that each and everyone of us can embrace.

    Life couldn't be much better:)
    Please give some examples of the ways in which your future will be brighter. You have carefully avoided doing this in your reply above. Without examples (with supporting factual evidence) your answer means little.

    You claim i should rejoice in my liberation. Liberation from what exactly?
  • CLAPTON
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    Any person who holds the nationality of an EU country is automatically also an EU citizen.

    EU citizenship is additional to national citizenship and confers a number of rights on the holder, such as the ability to live and work freely in any EU member state.

    as I said you are free to define citizens in any way you want
  • David_Aston
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    It is us same old posters on all of these brexit threads.
    Could I just point out, again, that reference to "getting over it", and "sore losers", posts do seem to equate this momentous decision with a General, or even Presidential election. In these, the losers must indeed, get over it. And then plan hard, so that when the four or five year period is over, a different route is taken.
    As a remainer I am still as depressed as I was on the day of the result. Unfortunately, I do think it is going to take a rather longer period of time for my fears to receive their justification.
    There will, of course, be no Shadenfreude, as I, and my family will be living the same life as Brexiteers.
  • Matt_L
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    katejo wrote: »
    Please give some examples of the ways in which your future will be brighter. You have carefully avoided doing this in your reply above. Without examples (with supporting factual evidence) your answer means little.

    You claim i should rejoice in my liberation. Liberation from what exactly?

    You will be liberated from those huge old rusted chains that is the EU those chains that have been holding you and i back for so many years, oh the joy it brings..

    As for factual evidence, i will supply you with as much as you could only dream of, but please give it just a couple of months once we've left and those dreams will be reality. However by then you will see it with your own eyes and won't require evidence:beer:
    "I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers."
  • katejo
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    It is us same old posters on all of these brexit threads.
    Could I just point out, again, that reference to "getting over it", and "sore losers", posts do seem to equate this momentous decision with a General, or even Presidential election. In these, the losers must indeed, get over it. And then plan hard, so that when the four or five year period is over, a different route is taken.
    As a remainer I am still as depressed as I was on the day of the result. Unfortunately, I do think it is going to take a rather longer period of time for my fears to receive their justification.
    There will, of course, be no Shadenfreude, as I, and my family will be living the same life as Brexiteers.

    Perhaps some Schadenfreude if I eventually get to see certain politicians topple. There is a crowdfunded campaign which has appointed barristers to decide whether criminal prosecutions might be possible over the campaign lies/inaccuracies (from either side). The barristers will announce their decision in the new year.
  • Thrugelmir
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    katejo wrote: »
    Perhaps some Schadenfreude if I eventually get to see certain politicians topple. There is a crowdfunded campaign which has appointed barristers to decide whether criminal prosecutions might be possible over the campaign lies/inaccuracies (from either side). The barristers will announce their decision in the new year.

    A very sad day when crowdfunding becomes the new way to influence politics and peoples lives. Money rules. A sure way of creating dissension.
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