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Why are leavers so angry

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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    And now we've slipped behind India in the GDP world rankings.

    Thanks a lot Brexitards.

    Great job.

    do you also hate the people of India so much you resent their economic development?
    not called toxic toastie for nothing are you
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »

    Your conspiracy theories apart, the process is quite clear that the present Government will trigger Article 50 and two years after that will still be in power and able to ensure that we leave the EU by simply refusing any extension whatever the EU27 propose/want.

    Your conspiracy theory is that May would (a) Risk her credibility by agreeing an extension (b) fight a general election with half of her party favouring an extension and half opposed to it.

    Although I rarely agree with you usually your debating is above the level of cheap insults. Maybe you're having a bad day.

    To address your first point, it's not a "conspiracy theory", there is a very real chance of an election next year. Here are the odds:

    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/year-of-next-general-election

    Since you are convinced that any talk of an early general election is so daft as to be fit to labelled conspiracy theory I'm sure you'll be remortgaging your house to avail yourself of the generous odds of 1.83 (or 5/6 if you prefer) on the election being 2020 or later. Nearly even money, an absolute steal.

    I skimmed the rest of your replies but tbh they weren't much more than more vague insults so can't be bothered to address them individually. I'd only be repeating myself anyway. As I've said all along, virtually all Remainers are happy to delay the process as long as possible & will provide a long list of reasons to justify doing so.
  • Graham_Devon
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    And now we've slipped behind India in the GDP world rankings.

    Thanks a lot Brexitards.

    Great job.

    What has Brexit got to do with it? All the predictions of doom have been proven wrong.

    What, specifically, has brexit affected to feed through to GDP?

    And howcome when it comes to immigration and infrastructure we have to blame the government? But when it comes to things like GDP, we blame the people who ticked a box on a piece of paper?
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Fella wrote: »
    Although I rarely agree with you usually your debating is above the level of cheap insults. Maybe you're having a bad day.

    .

    Not at all. But if the arguments are wasted on you I will not waste time making them.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    What has Brexit got to do with it? All the predictions of doom have been proven wrong.
    Maybe because.....Brexit hasn't happened yet? :think:

    Good to have you back Graham.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Sapphire
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    What has Brexit got to do with it? All the predictions of doom have been proven wrong.

    What, specifically, has brexit affected to feed through to GDP?

    And howcome when it comes to immigration and infrastructure we have to blame the government? But when it comes to things like GDP, we blame the people who ticked a box on a piece of paper?

    So when it comes to India, what standard of living does the majority of the population enjoy? What is the welfare state like? Do people have the same types of benefit as they receive in Britain, such as housing benefits and welfare payments to families with children? Do such benefits extend to individuals from overseas, including those who have paid in nothing and in quite a few cases won't contribute (the large Cameroon family with six children who came here from France and received a house worth half a million pounds comes to mind here)? Does India have a national health service free at the point of use, apparently to all and sundry from around the world? How much does India give in aid to other countries, and how much aid does it receive? :cool:
  • Fella
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Not at all. But if the arguments are wasted on you I will not waste time making them.

    Not going to acknowledge how wrong you were (again) then, this time regarding the certainty that the current Govt will be in power at the time of Brexit? Admirable.
  • Fella
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Maybe because.....Brexit hasn't happened yet? :think:

    Nope, because all the predictions of doom were that merely voting for Brexit would cause economic disaster. Perhaps you didn't :think: enough?
  • Herzlos
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    Fella wrote: »
    Nope, because all the predictions of doom were that merely voting for Brexit would cause economic disaster. Perhaps you didn't :think: enough?

    It knocked 20% off our currency overnight.

    But to be fair, no-one on either side thought the vote would be unrelated to triggering of A50, so the 2 events were used interchangeably.

    Things certainly haven't crashed and burned yet, and some companies are doing well due to the currency drop, but there have already been losses and companies have wasted a lot of money on contingency planning. I don't see any massive boom either.

    We won't really find out what happens until A50 is triggered and a deal is made. It's looking more and more likely that we'll come up with a business-friendly agreement, which means things may not suffer too badly, but the hard brexiteers will not be happy.
  • Graham_Devon
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    Maybe because.....Brexit hasn't happened yet? :think:

    Good to have you back Graham.

    The predictions were for an instant recession after the vote. Or an "instant, man made recession" if you listened to Hamish.

    The predictions from the BOE were that the vote itself would cause economic damage, and, therefore, they reacted with more QE and a lowering of interest rates.

    The predictions back in June / July were never about what happens after triggering article 50, they were about what would happen in the first month following the vote.

    I'm surprised you need reminding, as it was you yourself making and backing up such predictions.

    All the doom and panic predictions were categorically wrong.
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