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Driver denying liability accident on roundabout

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  • foxy-stoat
    foxy-stoat Posts: 6,879 Forumite
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    OP, this will be 50/50 most probably, there where 2 options for you at the time;

    As you approached the roundabout and looked to go straight you should of assumed that the driver to your left hasn't seen you and doesnt know how to drive and will cut you up, so you should of waited for them and driven behind - avoiding the accident.

    or

    Sped up and driven in front of them causing them to either see you and move out the way or hit your rear/side - you would have more chance of getting a non fault claim. Higher risk of damage and injury.

    Live and learn.
  • Car_54
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    NBLondon wrote: »
    Let's see the road markings... If it's a dual carriageway, with lanes 1 and 2 going through the roundabout, it may well be marked to suggest that lane 2 exits to lane 2 of exit 2 and thus the OP did not change lanes; the third party did.

    Of course the OP changed lanes: he was in lane 2 on the roundabout, and had to move across lane 1 to exit.

    The 3rd party did not change lanes on the r/a: he was in lane 1 throughout, although he shouldn't have been.
  • Strider590
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    steve1500 wrote: »
    The other driver has admitted being in the left hand lane, but is denying liability.

    I think I missed this..... Driver admitted (at the scene?) to being in wrong lane. but now the insurance company is denying liability, which is standard practice. What they might do is drag this out until after both of your next renewals and suspend your NCB, causing your premiums to double, which unfortunately seems to also now be standard practice.
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  • dannyrst
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    Of course the OP changed lanes: he was in lane 2 on the roundabout, and had to move across lane 1 to exit.

    The 3rd party did not change lanes on the r/a: he was in lane 1 throughout, although he shouldn't have been.

    No. If two lanes exit the roundabout, and the OP exited to the right hand lane of the round about, he stayed in his lane. What don't you get about that? It's been said multiple times.

    As for those saying he should have been aware of the car on his left, yes, and probably was. That doesn't make it possible to react and avoid a collision. To do that, you'd have to never be alongside another car on a roundabout, making multi-lane roundabouts useless.
  • Lots of roundabouts with this lane configuration here. I'm probably over-cautious but this is exactly why I always use lane 1 if I'm going "straight ahead", even if it means being delayed by traffic queuing to turn left. I want to minimise the likelihood of being hit by someone from my left. Whether it's my fault or their fault.


    (PS - I'm not suggesting that the OP was at fault - just that perhaps any collision may have been avoidable by using lane 1 rather than 2)
  • almillar
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    steve1500 - were you indicating left to leave the roundabout?

    Are there any signs or lane markings that are give contrary instructions to standard roundabouts?

    Was the other driver indicating right?

    Did you have a good reason to be in the outside lane, instead of the nearside lane?

    Did you see the other driver, and did you consider going on round the roundabout to avoid a collision?

    If it's a standard roundabout, the other driver has more serious questions to answer about why he was in the left lane to go 'right'.
  • arcon5
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    Jesus Christ some people are dense.

    The guy crossed ops path. Op didn't change lanes, continued on lane two of the exit as is designed.

    The simple fact is you don't take a 3oClock exit on most roundabouts from lane 1.

    Other party 100% at fault.

    May be worth getting photos op just in case your insurance people employ somebody as dense as some members around here
  • Car_54
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    dannyrst wrote: »
    No. If two lanes exit the roundabout, and the OP exited to the right hand lane of the round about, he stayed in his lane. What don't you get about that? It's been said multiple times.

    He didn't stay in "his" lane. To get from lane 2 of the roundabout to lane 2 of the d/c he had to join/cross lane 1 of the roundabout. That could have been occupied by other vehicles quite legitimately, e.g. going from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock., and if the OP didn't check his mirrors he is seriously at fault.

    What don't you get about that?
  • glentoran99
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    Car_54 wrote: »
    He didn't stay in "his" lane. To get from lane 2 of the roundabout to lane 2 of the d/c he had to join/cross lane 1 of the roundabout. That could have been occupied by other vehicles quite legitimately, e.g. going from 9 o'clock to 3 o'clock., and if the OP didn't check his mirrors he is seriously at fault.

    What don't you get about that?



    there was no entrance at 9 o'clock this was clarified earlier

    steve1500 wrote: »
    There are only two exits off the roundabout 12 & 3.
  • unforeseen
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    edited 14 December 2016 at 6:41PM
    arcon5 wrote: »
    Jesus Christ some people are dense.

    The guy crossed ops path. Op didn't change lanes, continued on lane two of the exit as is designed.

    The simple fact is you don't take a 3oClock exit on most roundabouts from lane 1.

    Other party 100% at fault.

    May be worth getting photos op just in case your insurance people employ somebody as dense as some members around here

    If the road markings don't show the lane peeling off to the exit but carrying on around the roundabout then the OP DID leave his lane and cross the other vehicle's path.



    OP, give a Google link for this roundabout so that we have factual info on sign posts, road markings etc.
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