Enormous fine for untaxed vehicle

bigadaj

Soot2006 wrote: »

Sarcasm, my friend.

It's the .com suffix for a uk website, confuses many people, mainly Americans.

Sarcasm is a capital offence over there, if the subject has a gun which is obviously probable, and realises the weapon being used.

AdrianC

nimbo wrote: »

How soon before do you get the reminder?

Early in the month before it expires. So if it expires end Feb, you'll get it early Feb. I've just had a reminder for one of ours which expires the end of this month.

My car was taxed by the garage and I'm not sure when it runs out. Not till Feb / march but is there a database I can check or something?

For tax and MOT expiry dates
https://vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/

For MOT history
https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

For your driving licence
https://www.viewdrivingrecord.service.gov.uk/driving-record/licence-number

buglawton

AdrianC wrote: »

I wonder why they don't send a reminder to the registered keeper that it needs renewing, or offer a direct debit that won't expire and will automatically renew...

They send a form in the post and do offer the DD option:
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-direct-debit/change-payments

Scrapping annual road tax would put maybe 15p on a litre. It would automatically reward people who drive small vehicles economically and penalise gas guzzlers. I can't think what's not to like, except that HMRC abhors simplicity.

Kim_kim

AdrianC wrote: »

I wonder why they don't send a reminder to the registered keeper that it needs renewing, or offer a direct debit that won't expire and will automatically renew...

The DD just goes on & on doesn't it?

AdrianC

ohdearlawd

Norman_Castle

buglawton wrote: »

Scrapping annual road tax would put maybe 15p on a litre. It would automatically reward people who drive small vehicles economically and penalise gas guzzlers. I can't think what's not to like, except that HMRC abhors simplicity.

Road tax was scrapped in 1937


I would prefer ved to be added to fuel duty but it would cost businesses more and these cost would be passed on to customers.

DUTR

buglawton wrote: »

They send a form in the post and do offer the DD option:
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-direct-debit/change-payments

Scrapping annual road tax would put maybe 15p on a litre. It would automatically reward people who drive small vehicles economically and penalise gas guzzlers. I can't think what's not to like, except that HMRC abhors simplicity.

Did you do any maths on that figure?
If a car is averaging 30mpg over a year at 10000 miles, that puts £227 on the fuel bill that's more than many pay on VED.

AdrianC

DUTR wrote: »

Did you do any maths on that figure?

I did a while ago - and it worked out to around 11p/litre, if you did a straight average across the entire national vehicle parc.

But, of course, it wouldn't work out as a straight average. It would be massively to the benefit of those who use older cars very little, and massively to the disbenefit of businesses. Just pause and think of the effect on the haulage industry, or manufacturers. Or, even, those who use petrol for non-road use, such as gardeners. It would also massively encourage grey import of fuel and unsafe domestic storage, as well as home-brewing of diesel.

I'd benefit big-time - I have three vehicles either taxed or SORNed but ready to go, for a total of over £600/yr VED - which cover a total of about 12,000 miles a year between them - 5p/mile in VED alone. If I get round to an MOT on the camper, I'll up that to four vehicles and £850, for maybe an extra thousand miles/year. 11p/litre would save me hundreds a year. Yet I think it's a bloody silly idea. Because I'm capable of understanding that I'm an edge case, and costs trickle downhill, directly and indirectly.

I really don't understand why people get so worked up about VED. It's really not the biggest expense, by a long chalk. I find it particularly inexplicable when people sign themselves up to huge depreciation and interest, to save a few quid in VED...

z1a

Norman_Castle wrote: »

Road tax was scrapped in 1937


I would prefer ved to be added to fuel duty but it would cost businesses more and these cost would be passed on to customers.

Yes, but then there'd be no extra revenue from fines issued to people too dumb to realise it had expired.

DUTR

AdrianC wrote: »

I did a while ago - and it worked out to around 11p/litre, if you did a straight average across the entire national vehicle parc.

But, of course, it wouldn't work out as a straight average. It would be massively to the benefit of those who use older cars very little, and massively to the disbenefit of businesses. Just pause and think of the effect on the haulage industry, or manufacturers. Or, even, those who use petrol for non-road use, such as gardeners. It would also massively encourage grey import of fuel and unsafe domestic storage, as well as home-brewing of diesel.

I'd benefit big-time - I have three vehicles either taxed or SORNed but ready to go, for a total of over £600/yr VED - which cover a total of about 12,000 miles a year between them - 5p/mile in VED alone. If I get round to an MOT on the camper, I'll up that to four vehicles and £850, for maybe an extra thousand miles/year. 11p/litre would save me hundreds a year. Yet I think it's a bloody silly idea. Because I'm capable of understanding that I'm an edge case, and costs trickle downhill, directly and indirectly.

I really don't understand why people get so worked up about VED. It's really not the biggest expense, by a long chalk. I find it particularly inexplicable when people sign themselves up to huge depreciation and interest, to save a few quid in VED...

I wasn't getting worked up about it, but I see scrapping VED/Tax as a stealth way of increase, in the last 3 years of owning this current car I have covered 5000pa, so the saving on the 15p/litre is just £31.5 for the year.