favour becomes entitlement

Person_one

springdreams wrote: »

Mr Generous was simply sharing a story. You are trying to make something out of something that wasn't there ... always has to be one that does this - seeing a slight where there isn't one!!!

Do you not think its interesting that so many people mention a person's race or ethnicity when it is not relevant to the story, but only if that person happens to be different to them?

I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing stuff like that out when you see it, makes us all a little bit more aware of our own language and behaviour. If you wouldn't need to say if the person was white/British, why would you need to say that they weren't?

springdreams

Person_one wrote: »

Do you not think its interesting that so many people mention a person's race or ethnicity when it is not relevant to the story, but only if that person happens to be different to them?

I don't think there's anything wrong with pointing stuff like that out when you see it, makes us all a little bit more aware of our own language and behaviour. If you wouldn't need to say if the person was white/British, why would you need to say that they weren't?

No I don't think it is interesting. It is simply a part of the story.

Political correctness often works against us rather than with us. For example when a crime is committed these days the race of the person is not mentioned. So there will be a report saying that police are looking for a middle aged man, around 5.11". The pool of potential suspects could be reduced dramatically if they also added that the man was white/black/Asian etc. But this is not done, so as not to cause offence.

And I don't think MrGenerous mentioned that the man was Asian in order to cause offence. It was simply a part of the story.

Person_one

springdreams wrote: »

Political correctness often works against us rather than with us. For example when a crime is committed these days the race of the person is not mentioned. So there will be a report saying that police are looking for a middle aged man, around 5.11". The pool of potential suspects could be reduced dramatically if they also added that the man was white/black/Asian etc. But this is not done, so as not to cause offence.

But, that's not really true, is it? Why would you say that when its blatantly plainly obvious that its just not true? :rotfl:

When ethnicity matters, its fine to mention it, like the police do when they are looking for a suspect. When it doesn't matter, when you wouldn't even think to mention it if the person was the same race as you are, why do so many people mention that they are a different race?

gt568

Person_one wrote: »

Hi, could you let me know the ethnicities of the people from your first anecdote too please, just for completeness? Thanks.

I love third person outrage. One of the many plagues infesting our society these days.:wall:

springdreams

Person_one wrote: »

But, that's not really true, is it? Why would you say that when its blatantly plainly obvious that its just not true? :rotfl:

When ethnicity matters, its fine to mention it, like the police do when they are looking for a suspect. When it doesn't matter, when you wouldn't even think to mention it if the person was the same race as you are, why do so many people mention that they are a different race?

It is true. You obviously spend too much time on here and too little time listening to the news ....

Person_one

gt568 wrote: »

I love third person outrage. One of the many plagues infesting our society these days.:wall:

There's no outrage here, just a calm, rational, pointing out of something that we should all really try not to do once we are aware that we are doing it.

Its funny how people react so strongly to somebody merely pointing out a discrepancy in their language. Language matters, doesn't it? It can reveal our most well hidden prejudices that we weren't even aware of ourselves.

Person_one

springdreams wrote: »

It is true. You obviously spend too much time on here and too little time listening to the news ....

Ok, here's a challenge, find me one single news report where the police release a description of a suspect and don't reveal their ethnicity. Just one will do.

davomcdave

Back to the topic I used to live in a flat that was 1 of four maisonettes in what looked like a pair of semi-detached houses. Downstairs from me was an elderly woman who used to let her kids park in our shared driveway. She was quite nice but the kids were entitled SOBs.

Once I bought a yard of topsoil delivered. I collared the son and told him that I needed to barrow the soil through to my back garden so it would be helpful if he didn't park in the driveway that day. He told me to 'go forth and multiply' (or 2 words to that effect) and parked his car as much in the way as he possibly could have. Unfortunately for him he parked before the delivery rather than after it which meant that his car was blocked in by a huge pile of earth while I tried to move it past his car one wheelbarrow at a time. Boy was he mad but he nobody to blame but himself!

Takeaway_Addict

Person_one wrote: »

Hi, could you let me know the ethnicities of the people from your first anecdote too please, just for completeness? Thanks.

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ratrace

davomcdave wrote: »

Back to the topic I used to live in a flat that was 1 of four maisonettes in what looked like a pair of semi-detached houses. Downstairs from me was an elderly woman who used to let her kids park in our shared driveway. She was quite nice but the kids were entitled SOBs.

Once I bought a yard of topsoil delivered. I collared the son and told him that I needed to barrow the soil through to my back garden so it would be helpful if he didn't park in the driveway that day. He told me to 'go forth and multiply' (or 2 words to that effect) and parked his car as much in the way as he possibly could have. Unfortunately for him he parked before the delivery rather than after it which meant that his car was blocked in by a huge pile of earth while I tried to move it past his car one wheelbarrow at a time. Boy was he mad but he nobody to blame but himself!

Its bizzare how some people are so selfish, all it takes is a bit cooperation, it winds me up what some people do its like when i go around to my brothers house a few times a year for a get togeather and a meal, I will always find a note on my windscreen saying don't park here, when i am perfectly parked with no restrictions what so ever, my brain cant comprehend the thought process that went it to writing it but thats people for you