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  • I was under the impression that my enphase monitor would be the most accurate report for PV generation ? 
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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • when charging my battery set of 4.8kw from the solar is it normal that when my solar is producing nearly 3kw that it only uses about a 1k to charge the battery even though the rest of the PV is going into he grid and the small amount for the house ?
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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • EVandPV
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    Starfrog said:
    I was under the impression that my enphase monitor would be the most accurate report for PV generation ? 
    Should be pretty much the same as your pv meter.
    Actually, do you even have a meter if your not getting paid for your generation ?
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
  • EVandPV
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    edited 11 February 2021 at 2:25PM
    Starfrog said:
    when charging my battery set of 4.8kw from the solar is it normal that when my solar is producing nearly 3kw that it only uses about a 1k to charge the battery even though the rest of the PV is going into he grid and the small amount for the house ?
    I was looking at one of your graphs you posted upthread Starfrog and was a bit confused.
    Your stats showed 20kwh generated yet your graph had only peaked at 0.8kw. There's no way your system could generate 20kwh in a day when it only reached a max of 0.8kw.
    Can you post another screenshot of your live pv stats.
    Could you also post a screenshot of your Lux stats.
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
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    Actually, I just noticed it says "kwh" on the left side of the graph as opposed to kw so the graph looks like your energy generated for the day as opposed to power generated as I first thought.
    My bad. 😄
    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
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    Heres the detail you asked for and yes I have a meter but just a basic one not smart at all (bit like me !) 

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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • EVandPV
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    Do you have a seperate meter for your solar or just the one you've always had for your electric consumption ?
    I can certainly see from your Lux graph that you were exporting a few kw before your batteries reached 100%.
    The charge power does reduce as your batteries reach full charge but not usually until they reach about 80-90%.
    Did you say your batteries are kept outside or in your garage ?

    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
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    There in garage but aoboet are good even when cold. I have the emphase monitor for Solar and use the lux for battery and everything else (it also says solar production but it’s the same as what enphase reports and as enphase is my microinverters then I’m thinking the enphase report is more accurate 
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    12 x JASolar 455w Panels (5.46kWp south facing array) Enphase Microinverters IQ7+, Lux AC ESS 3.6kW, 5 x 2.4kwh = 12kWh Plyontech US2000C Battery storage, Lochinver far North, west coast of Scotland 
  • Starfrog said:
    Heres the detail you asked for and yes I have a meter but just a basic one not smart at all (bit like me !) 


    My consumption is NEVER at "0" unless I have a power cut ;) Something is not right ?
    3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
    17 Yingli 235 panels
    Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
    Sunny Webox
    Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.

    13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...

    20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed
  • EVandPV
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    Starfrog said:
    There in garage but aoboet are good even when cold. I have the emphase monitor for Solar and use the lux for battery and everything else (it also says solar production but it’s the same as what enphase reports and as enphase is my microinverters then I’m thinking the enphase report is more accurate 
    Yeah, if you don't have a seperate pv meter then your enphase stats will be the most accurate. As I say, you would only need a pv meter if you were getting paid for your generation.
    The only reason I could think of that your batteries are not getting full power from your pv is low temperature, that would certainly be the case with Pylontechs but yeah, the blurb for Aoboets does say "they remain at full capacity down to zero degrees" so I'm at a loss.
    I take it your system charge power is at 100% ?



    Scott in Fife, 2.9kwp pv SSW facing, 2.7kw Fronius inverter installed Jan 2012 - 14.3kwh Seplos Mason battery storage with Lux ac controller - Renault Zoe 40kwh, Corsa-e 50kwh, Zappi EV charger and Octopus Go
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