How much can house prices keep rising ?

lisyloo

Some people want more out of a life than instant gratification

Purely anecdotal but personally I find the "buzz" and "can do" atmosphere in London to be very uplifting. I can see how people can get isolated and depressed in the countryside.
Of course some people would hate London and prefer the outer hebredies but I'm just saying that the environment you live in can certainly have an impact on your happiness and motivation.
I'm a little surprised but I feel I can do and achieve anything I like here.
I am not saying people can't do the same elsewhere, but to be honest if I was in my home (which isn't in the stix) I wouldn't bother going to museums, cinemas, theatres etc. - I'd watch the TV.


I have no issue with anyone liking different things, just making the point that your surroundings can have a massive impact on your happiness and motivations which is not just personal but impacts how much you give back as well.
Perhaps it affects some people more than others.

chucknorris

lisyloo wrote: »

Purely anecdotal but personally I find the "buzz" and "can do" atmosphere in London to be very uplifting. I can see how people can get isolated and depressed in the countryside.
Of course some people would hate London and prefer the outer hebredies but I'm just saying that the environment you live in can certainly have an impact on your happiness and motivation.
I'm a little surprised but I feel I can do and achieve anything I like here.
I am not saying people can't do the same elsewhere, but to be honest if I was in my home (which isn't in the stix) I wouldn't bother going to museums, cinemas, theatres etc. - I'd watch the TV.


I have no issue with anyone liking different things, just making the point that your surroundings can have a massive impact on your happiness and motivations which is not just personal but impacts how much you give back as well.
Perhaps it affects some people more than others.

I loved London for the first 10 years, but I moved out after 15 years, preferring rural Surrey. I consider both decisions of moving into and out of London to have been equally good for me. Both were right at different times of my life and career, I can't see myself in a city or large town now though, I like the outdoors too much. Although I suppose I could live in a more urban area if my garden backed onto a good quality open space (like Richmond Park, a riverside or lakeside walk where my dog could swim or something like that).

Conrad

I feel happiest when in touch with nature and far from urban centres. When in any kind of man made setting I feel unsettled and long to get back out into the sticks.


Cities have only been with us for a blink of an eye, so are as far from Human roots as one can get. Settled communities (villages) have been with us less than 10,000 years, which in evolutionary terms is a snap shot.


I am at my most disconcerted when there is little greenery or natural space around me - places like hospitals or large motorway services for example.

When I see an elderly person living somewhere I feel is depressing, I cannot get my head around how they can live without 'magic' and atmosphere.They say they are settled in some depressing town but they complain how unhappy they are.

Move to a magical little rural setting, get in touch with nature and what's real, take in the air, go to a crackling fire pub at night, grow veg, take walks - don't stagnate is some urban sprawl


I get the rural loneliness point, but on the other hand have seen plenty of news reporters reporting on people being lonely in towns and cities
IMO lol

Conrad

What most takes me aback is people choosing to live in depressing places, for example those dusty non descript places such as Northolt or Barking, Willesden or Wembley - barely any greenery, lots of depressing gassometers etc, busy roads, stone cold concrete, bettering shops, old Victorian cold pubs with shiny oil paint on the walls, street drunks, nowhere cosy or atmospheric, depressing council utility tree avenues with 1930's standard houses as far as the eye can see, a super depressing Rotary or Conservative club to socialise in, pylons, noise, pollution


We used to have to visit 2 Aunts in the Wembley area as kids and even then I felt thoroughly depressed being there even for a couple of hours

hildosaver

Conrad wrote: »

I feel happiest when in touch with nature and far from urban centres. When in any kind of man made setting I feel unsettled and long to get back out into the sticks.


Cities have only been with us for a blink of an eye, so are as far from Human roots as one can get. Settled communities (villages) have been with us less than 10,000 years, which in evolutionary terms is a snap shot.


I am at my most disconcerted when there is little greenery or natural space around me - places like hospitals or large motorway services for example.

When I see an elderly person living somewhere I feel is depressing, I cannot get my head around how they can live without 'magic' and atmosphere.They say they are settled in some depressing town but they complain how unhappy they are.

Move to a magical little rural setting, get in touch with nature and what's real, take in the air, go to a crackling fire pub at night, grow veg, take walks - don't stagnate is some urban sprawl


I get the rural loneliness point, but on the other hand have seen plenty of news reporters reporting on people being lonely in towns and cities
IMO lol

I know what you mean - as much as I enjoy spending time in cities, which is getting more infrequent to be honest - I would not really want to live in one again. We live 'in the sticks' as they say here and 10 miles from the nearest town and 20 miles from the capital (Belfast as opposed to London I might add). I think we get the best of both worlds as we can get into the city within 40 mins if we want to yet it feels like we live in the middle of nowhere with really lovely scenery all around us.


Some times I do miss the convenience of being able to walk to bars, etc. and meet up with friends more often but as I'm getting a bit older now I find I feel really tired when I get home from work and the thought of heading out (particularly during the week) really is the last thing I want to do.

lisyloo

I am at my most disconcerted when there is little greenery or natural space around me

A lot of people don't associate London with large open spaces, but there is of course plenty and one of the best days I've had was with the deer in Richmond Park.
It's not obligatory to spend your time in cocktail bars :-)

Move to a magical little rural setting

For housebound people who need support this could be an absolutely terrible move.

I get the rural loneliness point, but on the other hand have seen plenty of news reporters reporting on people being lonely in towns and cities

You can be lonely anywhere just as you can be happy anywhere.


Can we not just agree that different things suit different people? and indeed the same people at different stages of their lives?


Of course in reality we can't all go where we want. When we're working the primary factor is work followed closely by family. The closeness of cocktails bars and cinemas is generally quite far down the list of priorities.


BTW - I am in London because we HAVE to be for work reasons.
It makes sense to me to make the best out of the situation rather than whinge and moan.
You can still enjoy the deer and the parks if you want to !!
It's both possible to make the best of things and make the worst of things too.

Cloudydaze

I'm curious to know what pops into people's minds when they dismiss living in London.

I know I got lucky as I managed to buy in the right place at the right time. I'm in zone 3, SW London. I'm a 30min cycle commute from my office in Mayfair. My street has trees. I can hear birds singing. There's more to london than soulesss crime ridden estates.

I grew up in the a picture postcard village. I know what the alternatives are. For me, London offers a far better quality of life and I'm someone who would describe themselves as outdoorsy!

chucknorris

Cloudydaze wrote: »

I'm curious to know what pops into people's minds when they dismiss living in London.

I know I got lucky as I managed to buy in the right place at the right time. I'm in zone 3, SW London. I'm a 30min cycle commute from my office in Mayfair. My street has trees. I can hear birds singing. There's more to london than soulesss crime ridden estates.

I grew up in the a picture postcard village. I know what the alternatives are. For me, London offers a far better quality of life and I'm someone who would describe themselves as outdoorsy!

I want to live someone that I can run, walk and cycle with my dog off lead (away from any traffic) directly from my house. In fact, we are going to move to Ashtead where I can do that on both Ashtead and Epson Heaths, we don't know when, but we are just waiting for a suitable house to come onto the market, hopefully sometime in the next couple of years. I also want to be close to place where I can go for 10 to 15 mile hikes too. I lived in London 15 years and enjoyed it, in fact, we still own 8 London properties (although 2 are on sale now, one is under offer). I'm not having a go at London, it just isn't the right place for me anymore.

the_flying_pig

who knew, different people like different things...

chucknorris

the_flying_pig wrote: »

who knew, different people like different things...

Exactly, London works for some people, but doesn't for others. Wouldn't life be a bit boring if we all liked and disliked the same things.