Speeding fine for imaginary speed?

Stoke

Franz_Ferdinand wrote: »

Well you've hit the nail on the head haven't you and it should be clear that gingerbob contributes to and doesnt pay their wages.

Yes.... technically, the amount he pays is a contribution to their wages. I really don't see the issue here. They're not his personal body guard. He pays for them to do their job in the limited dealings with him.

Jon_01

lister wrote: »

What speed you were doing as you passed the van is irrelevant. It is what speed you were doing at the point he pinged you that matters, possibly up to 1000m away depending on sight lines.

Yes, I realize that. But they can't have pinged me more than 50 meters away from the van as they hid it behind a large roundabout sign and there's no clear view of the traffic until you've passed the sign and come within view of the space they park their van.

Also, the app I use will start to alert me if I go above 40 mph...

Franz_Ferdinand

Jon_01 wrote: »

Yes, I realize that. But they can't have pinged me more than 50 meters away from the van as they hid it behind a large roundabout sign and there's no clear view of the traffic until you've passed the sign and come within view of the space they park their van.

Also, the app I use will start to alert me if I go above 40 mph...

So are you saying that they only have a 50 metre view from that location and there isn't one upto 1000 metres?

esuhl

GingerBob wrote: »

Give me a break!!! CRIMINALS beat up old ladies.

CRIMINALS also break speed limits and kill old ladies due to their arrogance in thinking that they are above the law.

Does it really matter if speed cameras are sometimes used to generate revenue? What better way to subsidise the police than by getting criminals to pay? If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime.

GingerBob_3

esuhl wrote: »

CRIMINALS also break speed limits and kill old ladies due to their arrogance in thinking that they are above the law.

Does it really matter if speed cameras are sometimes used to generate revenue? What better way to subsidise the police than by getting criminals to pay? If you can't pay the fine, don't do the crime.

Read what I said about abuse of the language; a practice you're engaging in right here.

Strider590

Everyone banging on about the Police, speed camera vans are nothing to do with the Police, they're owned and run by local camera partnerships, private companies.

Car_54

GingerBob wrote: »

You are nothing. You are simply a person who committed an offence.


What about the person who committed a motoring offence 50 years ago? You'll be telling us he's '(still) a criminal' next!

Only if he tells us about his crime. Under the rehabilitation of offenders legislation convicted criminals don't have to declare their offences after a certain time.

I was convicted of careless driving in 1979, and no longer regard myself as a criminal.

Franz_Ferdinand

GingerBob wrote: »

You are nothing. You are simply a person who committed a crimina offence.


What about the person who committed a motoring offence 50 years ago? You'll be telling us he's '(still) a criminal' next!

Fixed the for you bob. 👍

facade

I don't understand the semantics of the whole thing.

If you accept a fixed penalty as an alternative to prosecution (accepting is not an admission of guilt, but an acceptance that an offence has taken place) you haven't been prosecuted, but somehow you have been convicted, even though a court wasn't involved and you weren't prosecuted, and you are somehow a criminal....

Franz_Ferdinand

facade wrote: »

I don't understand the semantics of the whole thing.

If you accept a fixed penalty as an alternative to prosecution (accepting is not an admission of guilt, but an acceptance that an offence has taken place) you haven't been prosecuted, but somehow you have been convicted, even though a court wasn't involved and you weren't prosecuted, and you are somehow a criminal....

Does/did a court code get added to your licence when you accept a fpn?

There's a four digit number for them.

Edit: Just looked on google at an image. Even if you accept the fixed penalty the court code is added. So yes your conviction is by a court.