Speeding fine for imaginary speed?

Jon_01

I've just had a letter for a speeding fine!

Now, I know people try all kinds of things to 'get out' these things (I used to work as fraud investigator for one of the mobile networks, I know how much BS people can come out with).

The thing is, I saw them setting up the van when I drove up the road 20 minutes before, I was aware that it was there (even though it was hidden behind a road sign!).
I have an app on my phone that not only tell me my speed but also give a warning if I exceed a set speed (I had a knee op and I can be a bit 'lead footed').

When I passed the van both my car speedometer and the app said I was doing 37 (in a 40 area). They say I was doing 47! Which is complete fiction.

I've spoken to an office in the traffic dept who was clearly having a very bad day as I've never spoken with someone that had such an attitude of 'we're right, you're wrong, we won't talk about it. Take it to court (where you'll lose), if you want to challenge it'.

Obviously I can't prove what I'm saying and I'm assuming that the court would just take the presented evidence as true and find against me.

So, is there any point even trying to fight this?

Thanks...

Franz_Ferdinand

Well if you're certain you weren't speeding then court it is.

You'll get a statement from the operator, video footage of your alleged offence and the calibration information on the device used when you enter your not guilty plea.

Pepipoo may get you your best help.

iolanthe07

So, is there any point even trying to fight this?

Probably not. Remember, this is all about raising revenue and very little to do with road safety.

Stoke

iolanthe07 wrote: »

So, is there any point even trying to fight this?

Probably not. Remember, this is all about raising revenue and very little to do with road safety.

This, to be quite honest.

Don't forget the police have a Christmas Party to pay for in the next couple of weeks. I've noticed a lot of speed vans out lately (parked illegally, if you fancy some irony for lunch) nicking people doing 60 in a 50 zone.

http://bentcop.biz/

Is an interesting site that are trying to get a petition to undo a load of red light/speeding fines. They've been advertising on YouTube lately.

Franz_Ferdinand

Stoke wrote: »

This, to be quite honest.

Don't forget the police have a Christmas Party to pay for in the next couple of weeks. I've noticed a lot of speed vans out lately (parked illegally, if you fancy some irony for lunch) nicking people doing 60 in a 50 zone.



Is an interesting site that are trying to get a petition to undo a load of red light/speeding fines. They've been advertising on YouTube lately.

So they're bent because they catch criminals?

Nasqueron

Franz_Ferdinand wrote: »

So they're bent because they catch criminals?

I'm the first to point out speeding is your own fault, however, we need them to be honest that is is about revenue generation, hence the cameras on dual carriageways etc rather than outside schools.

Near me (Rubery, near Great Park if you want to check it out) there used to be a Gatso on the bend passing the school/leisure centre (just after a pedestrian crossing) which is as it should be, slowing cars (it was a 40mph dual carriageway) and saving lives. They then moved it 100m down the road to a straight section away from the school - safety or cash generation? Hmm...

And no, my license is clean

Franz_Ferdinand

Nasqueron wrote: »

I'm the first to point out speeding is your own fault, however, we need them to be honest that is is about revenue generation, hence the cameras on dual carriageways etc rather than outside schools.

Near me (Rubery, near Great Park if you want to check it out) there used to be a Gatso on the bend passing the school/leisure centre (just after a pedestrian crossing) which is as it should be, slowing cars (it was a 40mph dual carriageway) and saving lives. They then moved it 100m down the road to a straight section away from the school - safety or cash generation? Hmm...

And no, my license is clean

You do know that that camera was unused for a number of years and raised no money at all?

Stoke

Franz_Ferdinand wrote: »

So they're bent because they catch criminals?

Haha, when was the last time you caught a criminal Constable? Speeding is a motoring offence. It is not a criminal offence, hence it is near impossible to receive a criminal conviction for it. I would imagine the only people who are criminalized for speeding are those where the police try and bump their charge sheet up to say dangerous driving or something of the sort.

When was the last time you caught someone for burglary, or vandalism? When was the last time you visited someone's house or actually attended a call out? Just wondering PC.

Stoke

Franz_Ferdinand wrote: »

You do know that that camera was unused for a number of years and raised no money at all?

If it was unused, why was it moved?

Franz_Ferdinand

Stoke wrote: »

Haha, when was the last time you caught a criminal Constable? Speeding is a motoring offence. It is not a criminal offence, hence it is near impossible to receive a criminal conviction for it. I would imagine the only people who are criminalized for speeding are those where the police try and bump their charge sheet up to say dangerous driving or something of the sort.

When was the last time you caught someone for burglary, or vandalism? When was the last time you visited someone's house or actually attended a call out? Just wondering PC.

Wrong, try again.

GingerBob_3

Franz_Ferdinand wrote: »

So they're bent because they catch criminals?

Give me a break!!! CRIMINALS beat up old ladies.