How much would EU citizenship be worth to you?

Masomnia

mayonnaise wrote: »

Some of our brexiteering friends are getting a bit confused, unsurprisingly.
The thread and poll is not about travel visas, peeps.

Travel visas are important here. There are one or two odd bods who would gladly pay into Juncker's bière jar on principle. For 99% of the population (excluding those who live/work in the EU) the only relevance of associate citizenship is the cost of getting to Europe for the odd weekend in Budapest; and if you don't need a visa for it the vast majority won't pay extra.

Matt_L

Nothing at all. I'm perfectly happy, isolated in little england

Europes chief negotiator is having a laugh, if he agreed to pay me a huge sum of money i would be happy to call my pet hamster an EU citizen....

LHW99

Nothing at all. I'm perfectly happy, isolated in little england

"Get a form from the PO and fill it in on the bus" is probably closer to as hard as it'd become

I seem to remember that isn't too far off how it did work before Schengen etc.
No more hassle than applying for an EHIC - and presumably we won't need those any more, just the travel insurance.

The_Last_Username

Nothing at all. I'm perfectly happy, isolated in little england

Am I alone in thinking that this poll isn't quite going the way that the OP hoped it would go?
With over 74% so far not wanting to pay.

And why should they?
After all, no one has yet put forward any reasonable argument as to why exactly paying for an EU citizenship would be desirable or what these "benefits of EU citizenship" would be that are so desirable.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

£1000 per year

The_Last_Username wrote: »

what these "benefits of EU citizenship" would be that are so desirable.

For me it's the ability to live, work or retire in 27 other countries without having to go through the high costs of non-EU citizen asset and cash deposits in country.

A non-EU citizen retiring to Spain needs €1,000,000 investment in Spanish financial assets such as shares, or €500,000 cash investment in property, or €2,000,000 in cash to obtain permanent residency. Most other EU nations have similar restrictions for non-EU citizens.

A citizen of an EU country needs almost nothing at all.... Just enough cash to rent or buy a cheap house and live off their state pension and a bit of savings..... It's as easy as deciding to move from Birmingham to Blackpool for ordinary people.

By comparison to the alternative of non-EU restrictions a grand a year would be a cheap price to pay for retaining EU citizenship.

CLAPTON

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

For me it's the ability to live, work or retire in 27 other countries without having to go through the high costs of non-EU citizen asset and cash deposits in country.

A non-EU citizen retiring to Spain needs €1,000,000 investment in Spanish financial assets such as shares, or €500,000 cash investment in property, or €2,000,000 in cash to obtain permanent residency. Most other EU nations have similar restrictions for non-EU citizens.

A citizen of an EU country needs almost nothing at all.... Just enough cash to rent or buy a cheap house and live off their state pension and a bit of savings..... It's as easy as deciding to move from Birmingham to Blackpool for ordinary people.

By comparison to the alternative of non-EU restrictions a grand a year would be a cheap price to pay for retaining EU citizenship.

it may or may not make sense to pay 1,000 per annum when you want to go live in spain, but makes no sense to pay in advance just in case you may, one day, wish to live there

Herzlos

£100 per year

MacMickster wrote: »

Have you ever tried holidaying outside of the EU? You should try it some time. I assure you that the world doesn't begin and end at the borders of the EU and there are some wonderful countries to visit.

Yup, I've been to North America, Africa, Asia, and all were harder than visiting Europe from a border control POV.

My point is not that it'll be harder to travel to Europe than, say, Morocco, btu that it'll be just as hard (and harder than it used to be), unless we keep freedom of movement.

BobQ

No more than it costs to apply for Irish citizenship

missbiggles1

£500 per year

mayonnaise wrote: »

Some of our brexiteering friends are getting a bit confused, unsurprisingly.
The thread and poll is not about travel visas, peeps.

I object to paying for something I've had for years and have had stolen from me but I ticked £500pa as I'm retired - if I were still working I'd happily pay more than a grand - as you say, it's far more than simply a question of visas.

missbiggles1

£500 per year

BobQ wrote: »

No more than it costs to apply for Irish citizenship

You're fortunate to be eligible - none of my ancestors even went there on holiday.:(