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How much would EU citizenship be worth to you?

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  • CLAPTON
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Have you visited any countries that aren't the UK?

    thank you for showing interest in my travels: yes I have travelled extensively including many of the poorer parts of the world:
    I'm not sure what that has to do with the relative levels of racism and tolerance of the countries of the world.
  • Herzlos
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    Just trying to get a grasp of your experience of other cultures.
  • CLAPTON
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Just trying to get a grasp of your experience of other cultures.

    I spent some time in Rwanda but I would not have expected the extreme violence that was to follow.
    Not sure what to learn from that.
  • Nick_C
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Just trying to get a grasp of your experience of other cultures.

    You no longer need to live abroad to get experience of lots of different cultures. Unfortunately.
  • gadgetmind
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    EU citizens born outside the UK are now the lucky ones. Thanks Farage, you total tool.
    I am not a financial adviser and neither do I play one on television. I might occasionally give bad advice but at least it's free.

    Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Nothing at all. I'm perfectly happy, isolated in little england
    Nick_C wrote: »
    You no longer need to live abroad to get experience of lots of different cultures. Unfortunately.

    Not necessarily. I spent 10 days in Jordan during which I had the same Palestinian driver/guide for the duration of the trip. Was a fascinating insight into how other people view history, the current state of affairs, and what they think of the US and the UK in particular. Extremely complex to say the least.
  • CLAPTON
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Not necessarily. I spent 10 days in Jordan during which I had the same Palestinian driver/guide for the duration of the trip. Was a fascinating insight into how other people view history, the current state of affairs, and what they think of the US and the UK in particular. Extremely complex to say the least.

    I'm not sure you need to go abroad to see other perspectives: after 9/11 there was an interesting letter from a primary school teacher who reported that the majority of her class said ' the US deserved it'
    and of course the stat that 95% of UK muslims wouldn't say 'Je suis Charlie' including our main muslin politicans.
  • Herzlos
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    I don't know, it's quite eye opening to go abroad and encounter people who don't speak English and have potentially never heard of it.

    The vocal few you encounter online don't represent the majority.

    Remember that to many Muslims, drawing Mohammad (spelling?) is essentially heresy. Whilst very few Muslims would advocate what happened, many will view what Charlie Hebdo (spelling?) as distasteful.

    I've love to hear what our ex colonies actually think about us, but those that I work with would never be honest about that sort of thing.
  • CLAPTON
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    I don't know, it's quite eye opening to go abroad and encounter people who don't speak English and have potentially never heard of it.

    The vocal few you encounter online don't represent the majority.

    Remember that to many Muslims, drawing Mohammad (spelling?) is essentially heresy. Whilst very few Muslims would advocate what happened, many will view what Charlie Hebdo (spelling?) as distasteful.

    according tto the Casey report, many people in the UK don't speak English and never will;
    according to Casey many think that the majority of UK people are muslims.

    Your view that few support the Charlie killings, is PC delusional.


    I've love to hear what our ex colonies actually think about us, but those that I work with would never be honest about that sort of thing.

    interesting indeed, but not relevant
  • Herzlos
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    according tto the Casey report, many people in the UK don't speak English and never will;
    according to Casey many think that the majority of UK people are muslims.

    People believe a lot of things that aren't true, like the scale of immigration. I don't have the reference, but the majority interviewed had immigration as about 7 times higher than it really was.

    I'm not sure how people can think that the 5% of Muslims make up a majority. I know there are clusters but still. Assumption that anyone that's not white is Muslim?
    Your view that few support the Charlie killings, is PC delusional.

    27% surveyed supported the killings, does that count as a few? It's definintely a minority. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11434695/Over-a-quarter-of-British-Muslims-have-sympathy-for-the-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.-That-is-far-too-many.html
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