OMG who do i believe

penny_pincher_7

thats what i thought zapp....how would he know if he has not fixed the belt? he hasnt mentioned he has, well he`s a man what can i expect lol at least i have found you guys on here with brains xx diane

epz_2

whats the scrap value, it sounds like youll practically end up replacing the engine and they dont go for start much over £800 on autotrader, though i dont know your milage.

penny_pincher_7

the mileage on the car is 80.000 i`m not sure if thats high or not diane xx

Wig

curiouser and curiouser
http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:6ERQLCe1jZ8J:www.toyotanation.com/forum/archive/topic/37831-1.html+non+interference+engines&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk

You need to find out (from Toyota perhaps) is this or isn't this an interference engine? chassis number and engine number may be needed. should be found on the plate under the bonnet. or the V5.

You then need to know Has the timing been reset with new belt, check compressions. if it is non iterferance then the engine compressions should be ok, and it should start up ok.

You need to witness for yourself the zero compression readings.

The problem is that you won't know how to check the timing has been set correctly, if it is not set properly there could easily be zero compression in some cylinders.

Perhaps you need to go to a Toyota forum or maybe a toyota celica forum.

You still haven't said what year your car is, forget "M reg" what year was it manufactured? Again you might have to ask Toyota for this information seeing as it is an import.

penny_pincher_7

is checking up on a mechanic a bit rude as i think he may know a hell of a lot more than me x diane

Wig

You're checking with Toyota innit.

And I suggest if they say it is non interferance. You should ask this mechanic if he has reset the timing, if he has and got zero compression, ask him how that's possible given that it is a non interferance engine - you can also ask the toyota dealer mechanic the same question get his opinion before phoning the guy who has your car.

You might want to consider paying this guy for whatever he has done so far and go and tow your car to a different garage. Or ask your new garage to go and pick it up - it'll cost you.

Incidently - If he says he has reset the timing (and he must have otherwise his pressure readings are meaningless) and it does not start when you pick it up. If the second garage says the timing is not set correctly, you will have a claim against the first garage for charging you for substandard work.

tomstickland

Even non interference engines can suffer damage if the timing belt fails.

It might be cheaper to source another engine for it rather than fix the current engine.

zappahey

tomstickland wrote: »

Even non interference engines can suffer damage if the timing belt fails.

It might be cheaper to source another engine for it rather than fix the current engine.

The consensus so far has been that there may not be damage but what's likely to be damaged on a non-interference engine?

Not suggesting you're wrong, just curious.

penny_pincher_7

just found out it`s a 3s-fe engine if this helps anyone xxdiane

northern_munky

This engine is an interference engine and if the belt has slipped 5 teeth then valve damage has probably occurred. Most people would time the engine up, chuck a new belt on and see what you have got and looks it like the garage have done this to be honest. The next step is to take the head off to check exactly what has happened in there. Unfortunately the parts for this car are not going to be cheap and that is why the quote for work is high. I know someone last year who had this problem on a Vauxhall Tigra and it cost her £750 to put right.

A second hand head maybe the way to go if you can get one for £50-£100, have a look under breakers in the yellow pages and have a ring around. I would be very surprised if the garage wouldn't agree to this.