Moving on from being sacked for gross misconduct: Applying for work.

jobbingmusician

Really? I don't see this going on at all. Rather I see a lot of unfounded assumptions being made, and the OP refuting them in a rather sensible way!

sangie595

jobbingmusician wrote: »

Really? I don't see this going on at all. Rather I see a lot of unfounded assumptions being made, and the OP refuting them in a rather sensible way!

Really? Well I didn't say that he made a silly mistake. I said we needed to understand what exactly had happened first. So I didn't need jumping on in that way.

dcouponzzzz

Let's not give Sangie any reason to stop helping people on this board please... If you want the accuracy of her(?) assistance anywhere but here it'll cost you a small fortune :P

sangie595

dcouponzzzz wrote: »

Let's not give Sangie any reason to stop helping people on this board please... If you want the accuracy of her(?) assistance anywhere but here it'll cost you a small fortune :P

Wasn't leaving the board. Just leaving people to their own mess if they want to bite.

Bogalot

sangie595 wrote: »

Really? Well I didn't say that he made a silly mistake. I said we needed to understand what exactly had happened first. So I didn't need jumping on in that way.

Your initial post was harsh. The implication was there that, like others, you thought OP was making excuses for what had happened.

You can be unduly harsh at times, as can we all. It just looks a bit feeble when you try to dismiss it when someone (quite understandably) takes offence.

sangie595 wrote: »

Wasn't leaving the board. Just leaving people to their own mess if they want to bite.

See above

jobbingmusician

Nope, it was a neutral comment. I was genuinely surprised that sangie, who I really respect, felt that someone was being aggressive and trying to pick a fight when I just saw someone responding to asssertions (NOT from sangie) with sensible responses.

steampowered

I don't think you should worry about this to be honest. People looking to start a legal career don't get asked why they left their previous job.

The reason for leaving your old job will be blindingly obvious if you are trying to become a lawyer. Instead you will get asked why you want to become a lawyer.

I don't think you should be too concerned about references. Most professional firms, including all of the major law firms, do not give detailed references. As a matter of policy they will only confirm dates of employment, job title and nothing else. This is completely standard practice in the legal industry.

Most law firms outsource reference checking for their junior lawyers and don't ask for additional information either. I imagine it is the same for the civil service.

You should include this job on your CV but do not need to include any details around your dismissal.

In the unlikely event that you get asked about your dismissal, then you should give an honest explanation of the circumstances.

Nicki

To clarify my suggested wording was an attempt to explain what had happened to a potential new employer in such a way as to get across lessons had been learned whilst alerting them to the fact that the reasons the former employer gave for dismissal could look alarming.

I've got no idea whether the OP made a mistake, silly or otherwise, but my educated guess is that denying everything at interviews is likely to mean he doesn't get offered new roles whereas being seen to have learned may be looked at more positively.

Making a mistake is not a bar to a legal career, silly or otherwise, but it would be hard to get past an allegation of financial dishonesty

sangie595

Bogalot wrote: »

Your initial post was harsh. The implication was there that, like others, you thought OP was making excuses for what had happened.

You can be unduly harsh at times, as can we all. It just looks a bit feeble when you try to dismiss it when someone (quite understandably) takes offence.



See above

Now who is making assumptions? You take something said and decide it implied something it didn't. The poster previous to me was the one who suggested it was a silly mistake. My comment was that no such thing could be inferred until the OP clarified the point I quoted as to how the log in occurred. But reading isn't always a strong point on these boards. Inferring is always so much more fun.

xapprenticex

dcouponzzzz wrote: »

Let's not give Sangie any reason to stop helping people on this board please... If you want the accuracy of her(?) assistance anywhere but here it'll cost you a small fortune :P

Oh give me a break.... If she wants to stay she will, if she wants to leave, she can. Nobody needs to adjust their response in fear of her doing anything.

To OP

Just be honest, they usually ask referee why you left and if they would take you on again. Answers to those probably wouldnt be positive, also no response at all wouldnt be good either so its best to explain the situation and own up to everything that could be your fault to show you have learnt from the mistake. I do agree with Sangies advice on that matter.

But if you argue that NONE of it was your fault (and maybe it wasnt) then that may not look so good, hard situation for you there.