Lodger Problems - notice provided but would like to evict sooner than 4 weeks

Kynthia

Pixie5740 wrote: »

!!!!!!. The simple solution is to negotiate a shorter notice period with her which shouldn't be difficult since she doesn't seem to enjoy living there anymore than you enjoy having her there. Instead you're going to waste time with solicitors and hiding the toaster. I'm starting to think the lodger isn't the only bonkers one living in the property.

Agreed. Heading down this route when you haven't even asked her if she'd be happy to shorten the notice period and be refunded for any days she no longer lives there is crazy. You're just going to make living in your own home more uncomfortable in the meantime.

If she breaches her side of the contract you are entitled to sue for any losses you incurred, not end your contract and chuck her out early. If you kick her out and she has to stay in a hotel until finding somewhere to rent she can sue you for those costs and the rent she overpaid. Yes you can take a chance she won't take it to court but surely it's worth negotiating first as she may be happy to go early if she finds somewhere else. You may be annoyed but try the smart option first as it could lead to a win-win outcome.

moneyistooshorttomention

I must admit to astonishment at someone living differently in their own home than they otherwise would because of having a lodger there!

Having had lodgers for some years back along - the only change I made to the way I lived because of that fact was that I made sure I did my dishes immediately after each meal and generally made more effort to keep the housework up to scratch. I certainly wouldnt have dreamt of changing the way I lived personally - it was my home.

Having said that - I run a pretty quiet orderly type home anyway - music isn't ear-blast level and I have a reasonable number of visitors (not raving parties).

I would still go with the idea of offering her advance rent paid back - provided she moved out early. That way - you'd dip out on 2?/3? weeks rent for time she's not yet had - but I'd regard it as worth it to have her out sooner.

kie120

Pixie5740 wrote: »

!!!!!!. The simple solution is to negotiate a shorter notice period with her which shouldn't be difficult since she doesn't seem to enjoy living there anymore than you enjoy having her there. Instead you're going to waste time with solicitors and hiding the toaster. I'm starting to think the lodger isn't the only bonkers one living in the property.

haha im not really hiding the toaster, the solicitor is a good friend.

We have 3 weeks max - I believe she's going away to Spain for a week - which means I sincerely doubt we'd have the back of her much sooner. Not to mention we have lost income from not being able to have a language student come and stay because of the situation - a lovely girl who has stopped with us before.

In the cold light of day, this will be more uncomfortable for the other party. If she wants to leave early fine but it will be under the terms of the agreement. Might sound stubborn but I don't think I've got an ounce of patience left and I'm not going to listen to her !!!! again.

kie120

Guest101 wrote: »

Harassment warning incoming I suspect....

Well not really. We won't make her feel uncomfortable, I'm not a bully nor is my partner. We will do things appropriately and by the book, honour our agreement, which has mutual obligations as far as I'm concerned.

Perhaps I came across as flippant or even a little vindictive; my mistake. Consider our position, asking someone to clear some space in our kitchen led to a personal attack and all of the horrible behaviour I've mentioned. I really don't have the appetite or patience to deal with that again and given the circumstances I doubt she will be moving out sooner - I'd expect her, simply because it is our wish, to drag it out instead. I'm done with playing games and to be clear won't be seeking out ways to make her miserable. Right now theres a detente and we're living as we should have been.

kie120

Kynthia wrote: »

Agreed. Heading down this route when you haven't even asked her if she'd be happy to shorten the notice period and be refunded for any days she no longer lives there is crazy. You're just going to make living in your own home more uncomfortable in the meantime.

If she breaches her side of the contract you are entitled to sue for any losses you incurred, not end your contract and chuck her out early. If you kick her out and she has to stay in a hotel until finding somewhere to rent she can sue you for those costs and the rent she overpaid. Yes you can take a chance she won't take it to court but surely it's worth negotiating first as she may be happy to go early if she finds somewhere else. You may be annoyed but try the smart option first as it could lead to a win-win outcome.

Yes I see yours and others point on this...such objectivity is tricky though when still annoyed and very wary of another tirade of abuse that short of swallowing I have very little recourse over. But if I hadn't wanted opinions and to be told to wise up I wouldn't have posted right?

Guest101

Good luck with that,


I'd of refunded rent, bung her £100 and changed the locks if it was that bad!

Candyapple

Out of interest OP, just how long has she been living with you and your partner?

Did you not vet her / gain references from previous landlords before she moved in?

Do you have an idea where she will move to (that you know of e.g. boyfriend, family etc.) ?

bmthmark

For the sake of 2 to 3 weeks its probably best to just wait.

Or you could just ask her to leave straight away, she will more than likely say no. If I was in your situation I would make things a living nightmare for her. She would want to move out if she was with me
She sounds a nightmare so I would do the same but worst back to her. E.g make loads of noise in the middle of the night for no reason. If you have a shared bathroom, spend extra long in there, remove all wifi completely (say its broken), play loud music constantly (make sure its something she doesn't like), inviting loads of friends round is a good idea. Anything that will annoy the hell out of her.

Marvel1

kie120 wrote: »

She's vindictive and incredibly immature for a 30-something professional

kie120 wrote: »

can I take the kettle and toaster away? :mad:

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Marvel1

bmthmark wrote: »

If I was in your situation I would make things a living nightmare for her. She would want to move out if she was with me

So make her leave early and steal their advanced rent.