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Lodger Problems - notice provided but would like to evict sooner than 4 weeks

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  • lee111s
    lee111s Posts: 2,987 Forumite
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    I'd tell you to get out of the house now. Take her key, kick her out and forget about it.
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 15 November 2016 at 3:40PM
    Well - put it this way. If you're going to let her work out the notice period:eek: - then, at the least, store everything valuable (jewellery/paperwork/etc) somewhere else (eg parent or trusted friends house) and change the lock literally the second she has gone.

    Personally - I think it's worth checking out the "worst case analysis" is for your finances if you chuck her out right away. I would doubt you would actually get financially penalised for doing so by any court.

    The fact she is well-off doesnt necessarily mean she could/would spend money chasing you if it came to it. Two of the particularly troublesome lodgers I had in my time were also well-off and they didnt (though I understand that, in both cases, their finances went from well-off to positively dire shortly after they moved out by coincidence/karma).

    Does anyone know what that "worst case analysis" is of what might happen if OP just chucks them straight out?
  • Does anyone know what that "worst case analysis" is of what might happen if OP just chucks them straight out?

    I would imagine the worst would be to cover any expenses/losses uncured.

    She would be begging to leave my house by now :D
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    dobymicks wrote: »
    As far as I am concerned she has crossed the line. All's fair in love and war. Need I say more?




    WHAT! Your worried about this !!!!'s deposit!

    In truth I did not mention it because it goes without saying. You give it her back, you just want rid.



    I do apologise I didn't realise you were the local judge for the county courts in the OPs location?....
  • kie120
    kie120 Posts: 25 Forumite
    Thanks everyone for advice/opinions, think I limited my options with the agreement but I'll get my solicitors opinion as to whether she has breached her side of the agreement and if the obligations are binding.

    So my stance now is we have a purely contractual relationship. We've afforded her every hospitality and frankly changed the way we would choose to live to be accommodating - idiots.

    So I'm withdrawing anything we've been sharing that aren't expressly listed in the agreement. For example, utilities does not include Wifi, music will be playing from 8am - 10pm (to think we'd not played ANY music because she finds in annoying). We will have guests around each evening, use our shared spaces, we won't be made to feel unwelcome in our home.

    I'm not naturally passive aggressive, in fact I hate it but needs must...now, can I take the kettle and toaster away? :mad:
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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    kie120 wrote: »
    Thanks everyone for advice/opinions, think I limited my options with the agreement but I'll get my solicitors opinion as to whether she has breached her side of the agreement and if the obligations are binding.

    So my stance now is we have a purely contractual relationship. We've afforded her every hospitality and frankly changed the way we would choose to live to be accommodating - idiots.

    So I'm withdrawing anything we've been sharing that aren't expressly listed in the agreement. For example, utilities does not include Wifi, music will be playing from 8am - 10pm (to think we'd not played ANY music because she finds in annoying). We will have guests around each evening, use our shared spaces, we won't be made to feel unwelcome in our home.

    I'm not naturally passive aggressive, in fact I hate it but needs must...now, can I take the kettle and toaster away? :mad:

    So I take it that negotiations stalled when you spoke with the lodger last night and/or this morning then?
  • kie120
    kie120 Posts: 25 Forumite
    Pixie5740 wrote: »
    So I take it that negotiations stalled when you spoke with the lodger last night and/or this morning then?

    We're not going to negotiate. I strongly feel she breached her agreement even if I can't legally prove this or enforce anything beyond our agreed termination date. We will have friends visit the house when we're at work (I mostly work from home anyway) we'll communicate and ask for room inspections in the run up to her leaving. She's vindictive and incredibly immature for a 30-something professional but rudeness is her limit and she's intent on leaving, which she's more than welcome to do sooner if she prefers.

    Any advice on making sure there's no lines crossed by us and how to manage the move out process? Want to make sure we don't make the same mistakes ending this when we did starting it...
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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    !!!!!!. The simple solution is to negotiate a shorter notice period with her which shouldn't be difficult since she doesn't seem to enjoy living there anymore than you enjoy having her there. Instead you're going to waste time with solicitors and hiding the toaster. I'm starting to think the lodger isn't the only bonkers one living in the property.
  • lee111s
    lee111s Posts: 2,987 Forumite
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    Or just kick her out.
  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    Harassment warning incoming I suspect....
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