Will Govt. win in Supreme Court?

Moby

Tromking wrote: »

On the long list of things I don't give a stuff about its probably the views of bitter remainiacs that top (or is it bottom?) the list.
You lot are free to bore every tw*t with the machinations pertaining to Brexit, but intrinsically no ones listening.
Drip away, no one cares!

Really......of course you care.... You wouldnt be on here responding if you didnt. You fool no-one.;)

Moby

Matt_L wrote: »

The problem i have is the fact that every politician i watched campaign to remain in the EU drilled home that this was a one off vote. They drummed it into us that if we vote to leave then we leave, we leave everything, no ifs no buts no second chances. They threatened that we would be out of the single market, that there would be no going back.. They explained in depth how much worse off we would be, the loss of jobs, loss of income, loss of benefits, loss rights. They told us how much worse off each family would be, how the economy would stagnate or even go into recession..

Yet despite all this we still voted to leave, for me partly because i didn't believe the doom and gloom, but i did believe them when they explained we would be out of the single market (or will no longer be a member)...

Since the vote many of those that threaten that leaving would mean leaving are now back tracking and desperately trying to keep the status quo.

Just watch Clegg when Andrew Neil plays him a clip of himself campaigning to remain, it boils my blood..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYdht0hg1ik

In that interview Clegg was superb. It boils my blood that our country is being sold down the river by little englander bigots!

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

In that interview Clegg was superb. It boils my blood that our country is being sold down the river by little englander bigots!

Big Ukers, globally attuned and great Europeans. Far better than to be a terrified remainer fearing change, obsessed with the EU squabble club

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

Big Ukers, globally attuned and great Europeans. Far better than to be a terrified remainer fearing change, obsessed with the EU squabble club

Instead of deluding yourself with your fantasies.....spend some time asking people in our neighbouring countries what they think about what we've done. There will be those nationalists/fringe types that agree with you but the reasonable, decent middle ground people in Europe think we are crazy.

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

indeed what is clear is not always understood
just as a vote to leave meant 'leave' : many remain people didn't understand that.

principles are indeed important but so are actual out turns.

A vote to leave meant to leave the European Union, not the common market, not the customs union.

Unless your ballot paper was significantly different to mine, that is, however somehow I believe it wasn't.

CLAPTON

CKhalvashi wrote: »

A vote to leave meant to leave the European Union, not the common market, not the customs union.

Unless your ballot paper was significantly different to mine, that is, however somehow I believe it wasn't.

my voting paper didn't say that a leave vote excluded leaving the common market nor did it say we would stay in the customs union
so yes I guess, we must have had different voting papers.

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

my voting paper didn't say that a leave vote excluded leaving the common market nor did it say we would stay in the customs union
so yes I guess, we must have had different voting papers.

Is that admission that for you to get your Brexit, we don't have to leave the common market, even though it's one of the options?

Finally, we've got somewhere :eek::T:D

CLAPTON

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Is that admission that for you to get your Brexit, we don't have to leave the common market, even though it's one of the options?

Finally, we've got somewhere :eek::T:D

no idea what you are trying to say.

antrobus

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Is that admission that for you to get your Brexit, we don't have to leave the common market, even though it's one of the options?...

On March 25, 1957, France, West Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, and Luxembourg sign a treaty in Rome establishing the European Economic Community (EEC), also known as the Common Market.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/common-market-founded

In 1967 the EEC became the European Community (EC). In 1993 the EC became the European Union (EU). In 2016 the UK voted to leave the European Union (EU).

CKhalvashi wrote: »

...Finally, we've got somewhere :eek::T:D

Not yet. But hope springs eternal.:)

CKhalvashi

CLAPTON wrote: »

no idea what you are trying to say.

My point is that there was nothing either way, and therefore it is completely for the remainers to campaign for. You have confirmed the legitimacy of this already this morning, do the honourable thing and admit that leaving the EEA isn't a given, nor is it fudging Brexit.

In the meantime, you may campaign on the matter in a way that you wish, as is your right.