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Has anyone changed their mind about Brexit?

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  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    prosaver wrote: »
    Polls have alays been wrong.. that doesn't mean anything

    12 countries in that list, and 5 have support below 50%.

    How does that back up the assertion that there is staunch support for the EU project?

    The polls could be wrong, the support could be higher or lower, but taking it at face value Sapphire's point doesn't seem to have been disproved at all. If anything an attempted defence has seemingly bolstered the argument.
  • prosaver wrote: »
    Polls have alays been wrong.. that doesn't mean anything

    LOL, not that wrong!
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    wotsthat wrote: »
    If the UK is so brilliant then why, after 40 odd years of UK membership, do people point out how crap the EU is?

    What the hell have we been doing for that time in the EU?
    .
    We never had the chance to vote..
    Btw still havnt changed my mind. .. more enforced it to leave..
    “Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself.”
    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    edited 8 February 2017 at 1:24PM
    12 countries in that list, and 5 have support below 50%.

    How does that back up the assertion that there is staunch support for the EU project?

    The polls could be wrong, the support could be higher or lower, but taking it at face value Sapphire's point doesn't seem to have been disproved at all. If anything an attempted defence has seemingly bolstered the argument.

    12 countries in that list, and only 5 have more than 30% support for leaving.
    Which disproves Sapphire's point of
    Sapphire wrote:
    Citizens of other countries would dearly love to leave the EU
    End of. No need to bicker.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    12 countries in that list, and only 5 have more than 30% support for leaving.
    Which disapproves Sapphire's point of

    End of. No need to bicker.

    I'd disagree, since it was the shy leave voter who hid in the polls under don't know or remain that delivered Brexit.

    There's plenty of don't know votes in there, shy remain support will exist but probably not to the same extent due to the vilification of leave voters as racists, xenophobes, uneducated idiots, etc... for this reason and the historic precedent that Brexit set regarding polling and actual results I would be more concerned that support for remain is below 50%.
  • prosaver
    prosaver Posts: 7,026 Forumite
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    12 countries in that list, and only 5 have more than 30% support for leaving.
    Which disproves Sapphire's point of

    End of. No need to bicker.
    Heres a poll saying the opposite. .
    Brexit-ET-v2.jpg
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    ― George Bernard Shaw
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    I'd like to see the poll results for the other countries not in the chart (eg Austria). It is interesting that the vote is closest in the wealthiest countries. Whether or not they want to leave the union, it will be interesting to see how the net contribution and immigration debates play out in these countries going forward.

    In the case of the former eastern bloc countries, I'd like to know why they are so in favour. Is it because they are net beneficiaries, or is it that the EU offers much greater options than the former soviet bloc? It would be interesting to have some deeper digging.

    ETA... sorry, this is in response to the earlier survey.
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  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    mayonnaise wrote: »
    12 countries in that list, and only 5 have more than 30% support for leaving.
    Which disproves Sapphire's point of

    End of. No need to bicker.

    It would seem that your evidence proves beyond all doubt that citizens of other countries would dearly love to leave the EU.
  • prosaver wrote: »
    Heres a poll saying the opposite. .
    Brexit-ET-v2.jpg

    No it doesn't. Your poll says that people think Brexit makes it more likely that other countries will leave the EU not that they want to leave the EU.

    You might really, really, really want super hard for the EU to fall apart but posting rubbish isn't going to make your wishes come true unfortunately.
  • Sapphire
    Sapphire Posts: 4,269 Forumite
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    No they wouldn't. Stop spreading fake news.

    Any news can be called 'fake news' if you disagree with it, and any 'news' (for any position) can be faked. What do you believe, then?

    'Fake news' appears to be the new fall-back 'argument' of remoaners, having failed with the 'you are racist', 'you are stupid' and other cards ad nauseum.

    I base my responses on in-depth knowledge of at least two countries that are in the clutches of the EU 'club', having spoken to citizens of those countries in their languages.

    No one ever died for the EU.
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