Benefit fraud

OldMotherTucker

dktreesea wrote: »

I had this problem. I got the impression, if you don't want to claim DLA/PiP, that the default position is to turn down all requests for a blue badge in the first instance, however valid. It's like they are saying if you can't get DLA/PiP, then you aren't eligible for a blue badge. Which is silly, because as you say there would be plenty of disabled people who don't claim DLA/PiP because they can afford not to.

I was given a BB in the past without getting DLA. The criteria here in Cornwall now though is having 8 mobility points on PIP.

Obviously I don't 'need' it because I don't often use it so I just think of it as part of my disability 'bundle'! I don't make the rules but I'd be stupid not to claim what the Law says I'm entitled to!

Sangie, on the other hand, could really use one but doesn't fall into the right category. A sensible person would recommend that Sangie looks into claiming PIP - nothing to loose right? It's nobody else's business right?

On crutches, he even looks the part! Which is more than can be said for a lot of claimants!!:rotfl::rotfl:

ev8

robotrobo wrote: »

Andy.
There is plenty of people needing help that carnt get it, yet there are thousands upon thousands on the fiddle that seem to get away with it.
I know of another guy who is on these benefits including mobility, hes a drinker as well, i see him coming out of the pubs in the afternoons, his wife takes the mobility car to get to work in the morning 7am , also she picks 2 work colleges to drive the 20 miles to work ,monday to friday.
i also know of a couple & they have two mobility cars at the same address & neither of them have worked for years, why would you need two cars at the same house!, plus they are good at walking, oh but ive forgot to mention i dont know what pain & discomfort is.:)

Do you think he may be drinking to forget his problems or to numb his pain?
I don't drink myself, but I had one the other years and I have to say it really did change my pain in a way my meds do not, so I can completely understand why people may drink when they are in pain.

Also, his wife can use the car in this way, if it is helping the claimant, which her working will be as it keeps the roof over his head, then she can drive the car to work.

You really are so judgemental, I wonder how you would cope if a life of chronic pain was suddenly forced on you, because believe me it's not easy. Yes you may get a car, but you lose the mobility money. I would love to go away for a few days, I've been told it may be good for me to change the scenery for a few days, but I just cannot manage it, so haven't had a night away in fifteen years.

I would give up all the money or benefits you get with being ill, just to be able to go away and do a job I loved. But my condition is limiting, as, most likely are those you are describing here.

dktreesea

ev8 wrote: »

I am on ESA and DLA, but I do not wish for the whole of my town to know, what with preconceived ideas of people on benefits nowadays and the fact my health is none of their business unless I care to tell them about it.

I am transferring to PIP, as it stands I do get high rate DLA mobility, I do not lease the car though nor do I even have a blue badge. I can walk, however I cannot walk without excessive pain throughout my body. Then after I have walked, even a small way I am in agony and cannot move for hours or days afterwards. I also collapse randomly, at any time, sometimes when I am out.
I look young and well, if you was to just look at me you would think I was very healthy, I very slim and look well, so you can imagine what people would think if they knew I get ESA and DLA. But looks are deceiving.

It is not my whole towns business what I get, I feel bad enough about my own life, without every other person passing judgement on me too.

I suspect the people who most begrudge disabled people their hand outs are those who have tried to get them for themselves and failed.


As to the able bodied, non disabled who begrudge the disabled their benefits, I wish I could give you some disabilities, just for a day, so you could try them out. Most disabled people would probably swap their share of taxpayers money for full health in a heartbeat.

OldMotherTucker

dktreesea wrote: »

I suspect the people who most begrudge disabled people their hand outs are those who have tried to get them for themselves and failed.


As to the able bodied, non disabled who begrudge the disabled their benefits, I wish I could give you some disabilities, just for a day, so you could try them out. Most disabled people would probably swap their share of taxpayers money for full health in a heartbeat.

I'd implore you not to! It's a waste of time and energy! Preserve your strength!!

nannytone_2

dktreesea wrote: »

Too young is a ridiculous excuse to deny people replacement knees and hips. If football players can get them in their 30s why not non celebrities in their 50s? Yes, you may need another one in 20 years time, but so what?

my friends son had a hip replacement at the age of 15. they live in london, so age isn't a barrier across the board

OldMotherTucker

dktreesea wrote: »

Too young is a ridiculous excuse to deny people replacement knees and hips. If football players can get them in their 30s why not non celebrities in their 50s? Yes, you may need another one in 20 years time, but so what?

You have to look at the risk and the cost!

PersianCatLady

As I understand it, as long as they approve the work it is permitted work.
As I explained in my very long post above this is not the case.

sangie595

OldMotherTucker wrote: »

I was given a BB in the past without getting DLA. The criteria here in Cornwall now though is having 8 mobility points on PIP.

Obviously I don't 'need' it because I don't often use it so I just think of it as part of my disability 'bundle'! I don't make the rules but I'd be stupid not to claim what the Law says I'm entitled to!

Sangie, on the other hand, could really use one but doesn't fall into the right category. A sensible person would recommend that Sangie looks into claiming PIP - nothing to loose right? It's nobody else's business right?

On crutches, he even looks the part! Which is more than can be said for a lot of claimants!!:rotfl::rotfl:

He's a she. But yes, it was incredible that with a visual assessment and letters from GP and three consultants I failed the BB test the first time, assessed by a council officer with not a single medical qualification!


But I don't claim PIP and won't. I see no reason to when I have quite enough income and don't need it. It does make the system very stupid though, when it makes it easier to claim things that cost money that isn't needed, to get things that aren't at a cost that are needed.

time2getalife

The issue with having knee replacements when you are younger is that you will require more in your lifetime. Knees are harder to replace the more you have. It used to be the case that they cemented knee replacements in but that's no longer the case.
Hips are slightly different for the younger person than they are for older. The ones for younger people are not cemented in and have holes in them so that the bones grow through the holes to keep them in place, which makes it easier to replace in the future. I've been waiting for a long time to become old enough for my double knee replacements and still have a way to go, yet I did have my hip replacement 2 years ago.
Think it all depends on the NHS trust as well.

dktreesea

OldMotherTucker wrote: »

You have to look at the risk and the cost!

Mmm, the cost of having someone crippled and disabled for the next ten to twenty years, unable to function properly physically. All for the sake of a £12,000 operation. I went from crippled to being able to walk straight up, in my early 50s. Meanwhile my cousin, with the same degenerative, inherited problem I have, is still being told by her English NHS trust, in her late 50s, she is too young to have the operation. Getting the care we need shouldn't be a postcode lottery.