prob with neighbours help pls

andrew-b

I wouldnt mind betting that the neighbours won't contact their solicitor and are just trying it on to get the full amount taking advantage of wxmlad's good nature.

If it was me, because they've changed the goalposts, i'd tell them to get stuffed and not pay a penny more to them unless a court told me to. I really wouldnt put yourself out wxmlad. You've tried being reasonable and they threw it back in your face. Don't worry at all about upsetting them...you haven't got to live near them much longer!

Has the new fence been erected on exactly the same spot? You might want to check wxmlad whether you've lost an inch or two..i really wouldn't be surprised if you have. On the other hand if they've built the fence within their boundary you could argue that it's on their side. If it turns out the fence did actually belong to you, you could give them some of their own medicine and threaten them with court action for pulling down your old fence - even if you have no intention of doing so!

Andy

SomeBozo

Just read through most of this thread, but might have missed something, but as far as I can see :
1) OP promised to pay £x to the neighbours for the erection of a fence on a certain date.
2) OP had cash flow problems and could not pay the cash on certain date.
3) Neighbours became upset and threatned legal action and threw in some nastyness.
4) Now Neighbours feel OP should pay full cost of fence.
5) There is no receipt.
6) OP house is for sale and wants to sell.

About right?

Both of you have been unreasonable, but I feel the brunt of this is at the feet of the OP.

You agreed to pay £x amount on a certain day. So what that there was no paper contract and it was just verbal. Its your neighbour, not a multinational we are dealing with here.

Its not their fault that you had cash flow problems. How do you know that paying it in full didn't cause them financial hardship?

If you were on here in their shoes, asking for advice, you get people quoting that a contract is a contract, verbal or not. The advice would be to get some legal advice, and perhaps even to remind your neighbour that he wants to sell and putting on some loud music during a view might be a good way to get your message across!

Talking about whose fence it is, and responsbility is a moot point, because you agreed to pay half. Writing letters to neighbours via recorded delivery etc, comparing old fence to new fence, all lunacy. Sorry. You had an agreement.

The lack of receipt could be a problem. But the time to question this is long gone IMO. You missed the boat and lost all your bargaining chips by not paying when you said you would.

They are now being unreasonable asking for the full price, but were are talking a few hundred quid here, who what not want to be unreasonable?

My advice, go around with your half of the cash, and probably a bottle of wine/beer/whatever and try to repair the bridges. Sounds harsh? Well, you want to sell the house right? What % of the asking price is this fence money, and 10 minutes of your time trying to talk them round and a bit of sweet talk?

Jusy my opinion.
Some Bozo.

jason_s_2

I have a friend who has his own fencing company.He has told me that the good side is always erected on the owners side,if that is the case then the fence is not yours and you not responsible for it.
As it was previously stated before, if the fence was in good order and they took it down for there own needs then they are responsible for full costs.
I would do as poppy says, write and log EVERYTHING that is said and keep all letters.
IMO as you have already offered half (be it a bit late) then a judge will see that you did this but they refused and say it is there own fault.
Dig ya heels in.
Jase

full-time-mum

barrymung wrote: »

Look at it from their point of view, you promised them money and are now refusing to pay. They probably think you are stalling and are going to sell your house, move away and not pay.

Fair point but look at it from OP point of view, he agreeded to share the cost, no proof/reciept of how much neighbour has really forked out is provided and now they are demanding the full cost of a fence that OP probably didn't really want or need. OP is not refusing to pay - significant amount has been offered and refused - they can't be that hard up now can they.

Given that amount has been offered and not taken, I wouldn't blame OP for doing just that - move away and not paying that is.

Maybe OP should have a quiet word with citizens advice.

nealallen

wxmlad wrote: »

i really need some advice please:

My house is currently up for sale,and im staying at my mums mostly as it closer for my work.

anyway - the house is a new build, and my neighbours who moved in at the same time last year as us (oct'06) . They asked a few months back about putting up a 6foot fence in between our 2 properties at the rear at a cost of £450 , they have a dog which tends to come in our garden all the time, also thier house is for sale and they told the estate agent that they would have one put up. I agreed to pay half, about 3 weeks ago the fence was put up and i said i would pay them when i got paid (1st sept)

at the same time my car went in for an MOT and it has cost me £550 to get it thru the MOT plus ive just taxed, and insured my car to, i explained to them that I had absoultly NO money untill the end of sept as my car has cost me so much ( i mean no money im on my credit card for pertol and food!!)

Even tho i have explained this they are constantly asking me for the money - i really just dont have it
I have recieved a letter off them today saying if i dont pay the money by the end of the week (as they need it for thier holiday) they will contact thier solicitor and this will " have implications' with me selling my house!:eek:

why?????????

im not sure what to do, i know they have had to wait a while for the money and if i had the £225 i would pay them, i have not signed anything its a verbal agreement, i really feel like not paying them at all now!!!

i cant believe some people can be like this:(:(:(

i already feel ill from stress as it is

i dont know what to do

Try this site out http://www.nfh.org.uk/ they have 16,000 + members and you will find all the help you need.

Lady_E

Any news yet ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????

CharleneUK

Updates OP?

Gambler

whereabouts in Wrexham wxmlad?

BritBrat

How sad, all over a fence.

From what I can see it may be the boundary you have to MAINTAIN but that only means replacing what was there in the first place not to remove a good fence and replace it with a fence to keep the neighbours animals out unless you wanted it for that purpose.

If It was me I would send them a cheque and keep a copy of it and a letter saying this is what we agreed and this is my final offer and any further communication must be in writing.

If they tear up the cheque at least you have shown willing to settle to the agreed amount and I could not see a court wasting their time on it.

Good luck

hjb123

wxmlad, just wondered if you had managed to get this sorted yet?