Cyclist collision at mini round about

reeac

mark1959 wrote: »

I take it you don't like others filtering either.:o

I've no objection whatsoever to people filtering. I do think, though, that it doesn't permit them to ditch common sense whilst doing it.

dacouch

emmasaundersagain wrote: »

how can a stationary car overtake a cyclist? which backs up my idea the cyclist overtook the car at a junction at speed without lights crossing into a hatched area

Seems our "ideas" are converging here

Does the hatched area have a solid white line on the outer part of it or a broken white line?

Is it a white hatched area or a yellow hatched area?

dacouch

emmasaundersagain wrote: »

The cyclist as I entered the round about, (because you have to remember that the cyclist hit me from the side (not me hit him at the front)) hit me at the centre of the mini round about, so I was almost clear of the mini round about and he was straight lining cutting through it. I know it can be difficult for you to accept that just because he came from the right means it was automatically my fault. but as a cyclist myself I can guarantee, if i try hard enough will at every other round about be able to plough into someones right hand side if im an idiot.

Much love x

The cyclist hit the front quarter of your car.

emmasaunders wrote: »

Hi advice on whose at fault. Last night at around sunset, a cyclist hit me at a mini round about drivers front wing.

emmasaunders wrote: »

I didn't see him, I imagine when I pulled off he was at the right side of the car at my right so I had no clear view of him

fabricator1

emmasaunders wrote: »

even though he did not have lights was dressed in black and had no reflectors?

who was it batman?

just_trying

emmasaundersagain wrote: »

so those videos were not like what happened.

For a start the cyclist was on the left, crossing a hatched area overtaking, secondly he overtook a STATIONARY car at the junction of a round about. You can't seem to understand that the car he overtook was stationary. how do i know it was stationary, because it stopped to as you suggest probably allow other cars from its right to pass, so I as a reasonable driver took it as my opportunity to leave. The cyclist as I entered the round about, (because you have to remember that the cyclist hit me from the side (not me hit him at the front)) hit me at the centre of the mini round about, so I was almost clear of the mini round about and he was straight lining cutting through it. I know it can be difficult for you to accept that just because he came from the right means it was automatically my fault. but as a cyclist myself I can guarantee, if i try hard enough will at every other round about be able to plough into someones right hand side if im an idiot.

Much love x

You decided to pull out, and you hit the cyclist. He had the right of way not you, you choose to enter the roundabout doesn't matter that the car was stationary you took that as your opportunity. Your fault, is the cyclist claiming for damage, if he is I would advise him to report it to the police, I wouldn't be dealing with you.

mpython

emmasaunders wrote: »

Last night at around sunset, a cyclist hit me at a mini round about drivers front wing....... I didn't see him, I imagine when I pulled off he was at the right side of the car at my right so I had no clear view of him....... I understand traffic to the right has right of way .........

emmasaundersagain wrote: »

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For a start the cyclist was on the left........... (because you have to remember that the cyclist hit me from the side ....... hit me at the centre of the mini round about......

Is this another example of Schrodinger's cyclist as discussed in kraken's thread? Its both on the left and right and in the centre of the roundabout.

reeac

mpython wrote: »

Is this another example of Schrodinger's cyclist as discussed in kraken's thread? Its both on the left and right and in the centre of the roundabout.

In the first quote the OP was referring to the posted video and in the second quote to her original description of the event .... two different scenarios, as she was pointing out.

reeac

Sorry, got those two the wrong way around. For first read second and for second read first. This whole thing has been going on too long.

Lord_Baltimore

I think the subject has pretty much been covered so I'm not going to judge you or the cyclist emma.

But if this does end up in Court (it probably won't) please don't argue your case on the basis you have expressed in the thread. I think you would come a cropper despite the mitigating circumstances you feel exist.

Thankfully neither you nor the cyclist have been seriously hurt.

angrycrow

spadoosh wrote: »

The car begins to overtake cyclist approaching the roundabout (loads more common than a cyclist overtaking on the right approaching a roundabout, particularly if the cyclist is planning on turning left or going straight on). Car breaks for roundabout preparing to give way. Realises they have to give way and comes to a stop without having completed the overtake. The cyclist who isnt on his brakes and therefore maintains momentum decides its safe enough for him to go, for whatever reason the car decides it isnt so stops.

I used to have this happen everyday when I was cycling 125 miles a week commuting by bike. I have stopped now because the general standard of driving has fallen so far below what is required that I no longer consider the roads safe for cyclists. Even when you have a helmet, hi vis, multiple flashing and static lights front and rear and bright orange reflective sections on the bike if a driver does not look they will not see you.

In the last week I have managed to see and avoid in plenty of time several cyclists in black clothing on black bikes with no lights in the dark and a black unlit landy pulling a unlit black horse box on an unlit motorway. Please just take a little more time to look twice before pulling out.

Just to put things in perspective the OP and the cyclist have had a lucky escape here. My last cycling incident left me injured to the extent I was out of work for 14 months and lost my job as a result we came within weeks if losing our home. 3 years on I am still not fully recovered. I do however consider myself very lucky to still be here.

Please take the extra time to look for cyclists even if they are doing something stupid.