Esa denied .

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stapeley wrote: »

Little knowledge is worse than none .
Please don,t give advice when you have no knowledge of the process . Checked with DWP help desk and MRI scan and consultants report will be relevant . Otherwise it would have to be treated as a new condition, which it is not. and a new claim would be needed.

Your problem, other than being rude, is thinking your claim all rests on your diagnosis.

It doesn't, it's not even entirely relevant and relies on you meeting set descriptors from having that condition. You haven't proved you meet those descriptors and a scan won't help you meet them.

nannytone_2

echo the above.

you obviously know so much more than everyone else about ESA.
makes me wonder why ypou bother asking other peoples opinions

Ames

stapeley wrote: »

Little knowledge is worse than none .
Please don,t give advice when you have no knowledge of the process . Checked with DWP help desk and MRI scan and consultants report will be relevant . Otherwise it would have to be treated as a new condition, which it is not. and a new claim would be needed.

Apologies if ESA is different to other benefits or the rules have changed recently. It certainly used to be the case that a tribunal decision was based on the condition at the time of the original decision and only on information that the original decision maker would have had access to.

stapeley

Apologies accepted , and I did not mean to be rude . I have been on the defence a little on this site with some putting in the ten pence worth, and sounding judgemental .
I received some links to sites that have examples of cases won ,and very helpful . It looks like I will have until at least December to get my case together,and am hopping to get some support .

belinda1960

Another source of excellent help is the Benefits and Work website. It is a fee paying site (approx £15 - £18 per annum - they routinely offer discounts), but they provide brilliant guides to making a successful ESA claim and/ or appeal.

I have used them for my partner, and IMHO they are the best up to date guides available in the UK, and go into immense detail re how to score points on each of descriptors for physical ailments. The guides extend to several hundred pages. You need to articulate how your condition affects you and for each relevant ESA descriptor you need to present examples of how the condition adversely effects your ability to carry out normal day to day activities. The Benefits and Work guides give many such examples and / or pointers.

Also not sure if anybody else has asked this question, but as you have been on ESA for approx 3 years, can we presume that you were in the income based Work Related Activity Group (WRAG) as opposed to the ESA Support Group ?

stapeley

belinda1960 wrote: »

Another source of excellent help is the Benefits and Work website. It is a fee paying site (approx £15 - £18 per annum - they routinely offer discounts), but they provide brilliant guides to making a successful ESA claim and/ or appeal.

I have used them for my partner, and IMHO they are the best up to date guides available in the UK, and go into immense detail re how to score points on each of descriptors for physical ailments. The guides extend to several hundred pages. You need to articulate how your condition affects you and for each relevant ESA descriptor you need to present examples of how the condition adversely effects your ability to carry out normal day to day activities. The Benefits and Work guides give many such examples and / or pointers.

Also not sure if anybody else has asked this question, but as you have been on ESA for approx 3 years, can we presume that you were in the income based Work Related Activity Group (WRAG) as opposed to the ESA Support Group ?

Yes it was wrag , but over the last six months there has been a noticeable change in my condition which resulted in the MRI scan . This is numbness in both arms , pins and needles, pain to both shoulders , dizzy spells,all indicators not recognised by DWP,s "heath care professional ".

teddysmum

stapeley wrote: »

Yes it was wrag , but over the last six months there has been a noticeable change in my condition which resulted in the MRI scan . This is numbness in both arms , pins and needles, pain to both shoulders , dizzy spells,all indicators not recognised by DWP,s "heath care professional ".

Perhaps 'recognised' is not the appropriate word.


Though often maligned (and rightly so in some cases such as those where the assessors have lied ) they ,sadly, get cases where scammers claim to have disabilities which cannot be proved and, knowing the system, get away with it.


The symptoms you describe, except, possibly numbness, cannot be proved, though the very harsh scratch method will weed out some, as you can't help but physically react to the unexpected sensation, if you do feel it to any degree.

PersianCatLady

It seem if you have a pulse and manage to get to the centre , you are deemed fit for work .
Absolute nonsense.

dktreesea

stapeley wrote: »

Another point I would make is the the Job centres are now insisting that claimants attend once every week ,changed from every two weeks. So for me , its a 1/2 mile walk to train station plus two lots of steps to buy ticket . Then another two lots of stairs at the next station , another 3/4 mile walk to the JC . So I have to walk a total of 2 1/2 miles and pay £6 train fare ! When you get there , no toilets are available to claimants. How can this be right ?

No there is not a reliable bus service .

But if you can do all that, in spite of the pain and depression, surely it's not much of a leap to realise the DWP are going to expect you to work and not stay on ESA?


It's much harder to qualify for ESA these days than it was even three years ago. The benefit might be called the same, but the goal posts have definitely changed.

dktreesea

stapeley wrote: »

Yes it was wrag , but over the last six months there has been a noticeable change in my condition which resulted in the MRI scan . This is numbness in both arms , pins and needles, pain to both shoulders , dizzy spells,all indicators not recognised by DWP,s "heath care professional ".

Yes, because they wouldn't have regarded numbness, pins and needles or the occasional dizzy spell as being sufficient to exclude you from having to work. There are plenty of people working, ill or disabled or both, who have worse conditions that you describe but just take whatever medication they are prescribed to help manage the symptoms and carry on working. And because such people exist, and in large numbers, it makes it harder these days for anyone who would rather not work to get financial assistance to that end.


I'm not sure that the WRAG is fit for purpose. The government are already saying this group won't get any extra money over and above the dole from April 2017 (they say new claimants but it's a short space of time before they'll roll it out to everyone in that group on the grounds of "fairness" to those who don't get the additional money because they are new claimants).