Esa denied .

Bogalot

stapeley wrote: »

At the assessment I was seen by a physiotherapist/ heath care professional . Well reading through the symptoms of SPONDYLOSIS the description I gave , of severe neck pain., headaches , pins and needles and numbness in my arms .I also described pain in my legs. All listed as symptoms, the question I ask is, what sort of Physiotherapist was the assessor? A point I will most certainly raise at the tribunal.

Writing in big letters doesn't make it any more serious!

I expect if you make such a point about the physio at tribunal they will respond with "a qualified one". Any physio will have a great deal of experience of neck pain and be a good judge as to the extent of the problem.

stapeley

Bogalot wrote: »

Writing in big letters doesn't make it any more serious!

I expect if you make such a point about the physio at tribunal they will respond with "a qualified one". Any physio will have a great deal of experience of neck pain and be a good judge as to the extent of the problem.

You have to say why the assessment is wrong and point out where you disagree and where you should have been given more points. Until you have sat in on one of these assessments . you are not really in a position to comment .


If a so called qualified physio/ heath care professional can dismiss the symptoms I described ,they should not be the job . Lift your arm up , push against my hands , is not an examination. My Doctor has referred me to consultant surgeon at the hospital.The result of which I hope to have in time for the tribunal .

Ames

I think the 'lift your arms up push against my hands' is the examination specified by the DWP rather than the examination a physio would do as routine.

The tribunal probably won't be able to accept anything from the consultant surgeon. They can only use evidence that would have been available to the original decision maker, so a referral made after that is inadmissable.

stapeley

The condition was in existence at the time of assessment but the heath care professional was unable to recognize it . But all the indicators were present and described at the assessment . Therefore was the underlying problem at the time , I am now able to confirm the condition and associated conditions that have been on going for quite some time, These will be the results shown in the MRI scan and by a consultants findings.

stapeley

Ames wrote: »

I think the 'lift your arms up push against my hands' is the examination specified by the DWP rather than the examination a physio would do as routine.

The tribunal probably won't be able to accept anything from the consultant surgeon. They can only use evidence that would have been available to the original decision maker, so a referral made after that is inadmissible.

As new "evidence " is now available a new assessment should be the least they should recommend .

Bogalot

stapeley wrote: »

You have to say why the assessment is wrong and point out where you disagree and where you should have been given more points. Until you have sat in on one of these assessments . you are not really in a position to comment .


If a so called qualified physio/ heath care professional can dismiss the symptoms I described ,they should not be the job . Lift your arm up , push against my hands , is not an examination. My Doctor has referred me to consultant surgeon at the hospital.The result of which I hope to have in time for the tribunal .

The tests you describe relate to the descriptors. You need to think this through, if you cannot see the connection then you need help with the appeal.

I've attended several assessments as a support, and I previously claimed IB. Why would you assume I have not, because I disagree with you?

Bogalot

stapeley wrote: »

As new "evidence " is now available a new assessment should be the least they should recommend .

It is up to you to relate the new evidence to your health at the time of the assessment.

If you wish to be freshly assessed on the new evidence then you'll need to start a new claim.

stapeley

I want to be correctly assessed on the condition that was present at time of assessment , The fact they were unable to recognise it , is down to their wholly unsatisfactory method of conducting assessments.

teddysmum

You can have spondylosis for years with o symptoms and even the symptoms can disappear.


I first found I had it some 30 years ago, when the GP requested an X-ray after backache lasted for 6 months. The bone growth didn't go away, of course, but I experienced no more pain until 8 years ago, but even that pain may not be due to the spondylosis, as other spinal damage is evident (from MRIs).


My mother also had spondylosis for years, without knowing; hers showing up after an accident in which she hit her head on a cast iron radiator. She never had an MRI.


Even a neurologist (and mine is a department head) will still do the 'resist my push'', lift your arms' routine and they don't immediately jump to ordering MRIs (mine took a year).


Last week, he diagnosed a neck problem I didn't know I had, by moving my neck, resulting in my legs giving way and his having to stop me hitting the floor. No high tech method used, but I am having an MRI , because of the progress of known other problems.


Incidentally, any MRI results I've had took a minimum of 2 months , with a wait for an available slot , followed by 8 weeks for the radiologist to read the scans and send a report and copies to the requesting consultant. Our hospital has at least three scanners, so it's not a quick process (especially as urgent cases must take priority.)

stapeley

Ames wrote: »

I think the 'lift your arms up push against my hands' is the examination specified by the DWP rather than the examination a physio would do as routine.

The tribunal probably won't be able to accept anything from the consultant surgeon. They can only use evidence that would have been available to the original decision maker, so a referral made after that is inadmissable.

Little knowledge is worse than none .
Please don,t give advice when you have no knowledge of the process . Checked with DWP help desk and MRI scan and consultants report will be relevant . Otherwise it would have to be treated as a new condition, which it is not. and a new claim would be needed.