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I'm afraid anecdote is not evidence. Otherwise we wouldn't need such complicated and expensive clinical trials run by highly trained people.sunshine124 wrote: »Also thx for the info need_more_money, i am aware that homeopathic remedies are very diluted but u say that there is no evidence to support its theory of 'like with like' but you just have to speak with many people across the world who have actually been treated and cured with homeopathy to know that it works.sunshine124 wrote: »I just want to make it clear that I do not disagree with allopathy. I believe that allopathy can cure many illnesses, but the downside to allopathy is that it sucks all the energy out of the system and has many strong side effects, whereas homeopathy is much more gentler on the body and at the same time can greatly improve the illness.
Sure, most medicines will have some kind of side effect. A decision has to be made about whether the benefits of the drugs justify the side effect. Not sure what you mean by "it sucks all the energy out of the system"
The reason that homeopathic drugs don't have side effects is because they are essentially only water as I previously explained.0 -
sunshine124 wrote: »sorry skyrocket, I don't have any links, but i have been reading about homeopathy for years and I must have read it in a book somewhere. i know in middle eastern countries they treat farm animals with various diseases with homeopathy and it can work quite well, but sorry i have no links. if you are really interested in homeopathy then try getting some books on homeopathy from your local library, maybe they will have some information about homeopathy for animals. i hope this helps.;)
i have a few books about homeopathy and use it on my kiddies as well as my animals. always works a treat! my aunt is a homeopath and has been 25 years now. so i get advice from her about what to give them if i'm not sure. i'm a hypnotherapist and get stick now and then from people say that what i do is nonsense so i know what its like for your average homeopath!:rotfl:0 -
She even gave stuff to her dog for athritis and he was noticibly nimbler after few weeks-and dont reckon dogs can be influenced by the placebo effect!!
Yes they can, and to the same extent as humans.
This is why animal medicines are also tested double-blind and with a control group. (That means that the person giving the medicine doesn't know if it's the drug, or the dummy).
The 20-30% attributed to the placebo effect isn't 'cure' although it occasionally can 'cure' people. It is just the percentage who seem to gain some benefit from the treatment. either self-reported or observed.
Proper medicines need to show an effect above and beyond the control (Placebo) group to prove their efficacy.
This is the thing that homeopathic medicine has always failed to do.
The studies that do show benefit have always been carried out unscientifically. Most commonly, with the administrator knowing whether it's the 'active' homeopathic medicine, or the 'fake' one.
The fact that 'nothing' can help some people - whether they belive in it or not, or even the power of 'nothing' to help animals and babies is, in my opinion, a powerful force that should be studied in much greater depth. I do not dismiss the power of nothing!
What I do object to though, is the mumbo jumbo that a 'medicine' with the dilution factor of ONE ATOM in THE PACIFIC OCEAN can actually do something!
Think about it.
You are more likely to win the lottery and be struck by lightning the next day than you are to EVER find a single atom of active ingredient in a bottle of homeopathic tablets.How to find a dentist.
1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.0 -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A954740
This article really puts the whole case in a (rather large!) nutshell!How to find a dentist.
1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.0 -
Need_More_Money wrote: »Originally Posted by sunshine124
Homeopathy treats 'like with like' .
Indeed, this is the first 'law' of homeopathy. However, so far as I can find, it has no basis and has no evidence to support it.
Isn't that essentially what all hormetic effects are? Creating increased DNA repair by means of administration of low level of radiation as a stressor is surely treating like with like.
The difference as I see it is that with radiation hormesis there is observable evidence that it works, and you are actually administering a measurable amount of a nominally toxic substance to the subject. Neither of which could really be said about homeopathy.
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Stargazer_Lily wrote: »Isn't that essentially what all hormetic effects are? Creating increased DNA repair by means of administration of low level of radiation as a stressor is surely treating like with like.
The difference as I see it is that with radiation hormesis there is observable evidence that it works, and you are actually administering a measurable amount of a nominally toxic substance to the subject. Neither of which could really be said about homeopathy.
Lil
That's a good point. There does seem to be a case for radiation hormesis. The problem with homeopathy is, as you say, there is none of the substance in the 'medicine'.0 -
Stargazer_Lily wrote: »Isn't that essentially what all hormetic effects are? Creating increased DNA repair by means of administration of low level of radiation as a stressor is surely treating like with like.
Having thought about this a little more, I've thought of another difference. It would seem that relatively low dose radiation might produce a hormetic effect which protects against future cancers and maybe other illnesses as well. The doses might be low, but they are easily measurable. This is not unusual, many essential minerals and vitamins are poisonous in high doses but beneficial at low doses.
My understanding of the theory of homeopathy is that you take a substance that causes symptoms (in well people) like those of the disease you are trying to cure and administer it to the sick person (albeit so dilute that there isn't actually anything but water there). So homeopathy is trying to cure an exisiting condition whereas radiation hormesis produces a protective effect against future conditions. You could say that radiotherapy treatment for cancer is analagous to homeopathy, except that the radiation doses are large and certainly measureable (the complete opposite to homeopathy). It also takes advantage of the fact that the radiation effects at high doses differ from those at lower doses.0 -
“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” - Stuart ChaseBe kinder than necessary, for everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. :A0 -
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“For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.” - Stuart Chase
I think this is a quote about god(s), and only meant to be about god(s).
If it's applied to anything else, it's absolute codswallop! And certainly not something a modern health care service should have anything to do with.
IHow to find a dentist.
1. Get recommendations from friends/family/neighbours/etc.
2. Once you have a short-list, VISIT the practices - dont just phone. Go on the pretext of getting a Practice Leaflet.
3. Assess the helpfulness of the staff and the level of the facilities.
4. Only book initial appointment when you find a place you are happy with.0
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