photographic evidence of neighbour from hell.

hollydays

You sell camera recording equipment don't you, op?

daytona0

Laurie_Sicard-Askey wrote: »

I've worked for many years in mental health and some of my clients suffered/experienced mental breakdowns and part of my job speck was to assist in them recovering which was a very long process in some cases.

So you don't think a lawyer deliberately harassing someone to the point that they are becoming emotionally fragile with the possibility they might crack isn't a form of bulling?

I have to admit that it took me about 2 minutes to figure out what you were talking about! Seemed like you were going off on a huge tangent.

But I think I understand now The "witch" is the lawyer and you want me to put the shoe on the other foot Fair enough.

Let's consider mental health for one tiny moment. Do you think that one of your clients would respond well to being called a "witch" because their hedge was large? Or because they hold parties? Or because kids call them that and adults have adopted it? I don't think so. In fairness, but the lawyer ("witch") probably doesn't have a MH issue (you never know), but does that make it right to call them a "witch"?

It is just a case of as soon as you refer to the neighbor as a "witch" (as a childish insult) then you lose the moral high ground here. OP has done that all by themselves, I haven't done a thing! Don't have a pop at me!

And if OP's neighbor has some kind of MH issue then it does not excuse the name calling, don't you think? Or is MH some sort of get out clause for being a bully?

I have no doubt that you've done some good work in your time and you are a good person, but I could envision that same lawyer/witch knocking on your doorstep for help and talking about how they feel the neighbors are out to get them/bully them by referring to them as a witch

silverwhistle

Laurie_Sicard-Askey wrote: »

So you don't think a lawyer deliberately harassing someone to the point ..

We don't know whether it is harassment or perception of harassment. No noise readings have been taken, there is only hearsay evidence of bad behaviour "no proof".. We don't know if the perceived behaviour is deliberately designed to harass.

I do hope you didn't always believe everything your clients told you, as you would have been easily manipulated.

daytona0

silverwhistle wrote: »

I do hope you didn't always believe everything your clients told you, as you would have been easily manipulated.

I 100% agree with that.

I agree because I could envision either OP's neighbor OR the "witch" knocking on Laurie Sicard-Askey's door. And if Laurie Sicard-Askey doesn't have their wits about them, they may end up with a very colored perception.

Sicard

daytona0 wrote: »

I have to admit that it took me about 2 minutes to figure out what you were talking about! Seemed like you were going off on a huge tangent.

But I think I understand now The "witch" is the lawyer and you want me to put the shoe on the other foot Fair enough.

Let's consider mental health for one tiny moment. Do you think that one of your clients would respond well to being called a "witch" because their hedge was large? Or because they hold parties? Or because kids call them that and adults have adopted it? I don't think so. In fairness, but the lawyer ("witch") probably doesn't have a MH issue (you never know), but does that make it right to call them a "witch"?

It is just a case of as soon as you refer to the neighbor as a "witch" (as a childish insult) then you lose the moral high ground here. OP has done that all by themselves, I haven't done a thing! Don't have a pop at me!

And if OP's neighbor has some kind of MH issue then it does not excuse the name calling, don't you think? Or is MH some sort of get out clause for being a bully?

I have no doubt that you've done some good work in your time and you are a good person, but I could envision that same lawyer/witch knocking on your doorstep for help and talking about how they feel the neighbors are out to get them/bully them by referring to them as a witch

How was I going off on a tangent? You backed up the 'witch' by saying it was bullying by referring to her like that. I was merely pointing out that the 'perceived harassment' was also a form of bullying and to be honest I was rather surprised that you took that stance instead of being supportive (even a tiny bit) of the OP's situation considering this is a 'supposed' supportive website.

It appears you're going off on a tangent by implying the 'witch' could have a MH issue and that is why she's displaying harassment behaviour. In my experience she wouldn't have a MH issue but she would have a severe personality disorder which is a totally different thing. I know because my late mum lived next door to an absolute rsole (I hope that name doesn't hurt your sensibilities). She used to do B&B for uni students and one of his little nastinesses was to go round telling the neighbours she ran a brothel.

To my knowledge the 'witch' isn't even aware that she's referred to as a witch so the tangent has disappeared into the stratosphere.

We have to take at face value what the OP is telling us that his neighbour is on the verge of a nervous breakdown due to the actions of the so called witch which may not be sufficient cause in your view to gain your support. And no I don't believe everything I read on this site. I see too many newbie trolls making up stories.

It appears because this 'witch' is a criminal lawyer she is also extremely clever, has a nasty nature (in psychology that would be classified as an anal retentive sadistic type character) and does her best to harass the OP's neighbour. She is probably very influential to allow her to get away with antisocial behaviour that most of us wouldn't. I hope that explains things.

You also are probably a nice person but don't have a pop at me;)

mikeyranson

ok ok ok. There have been many issues on our estate where intimidation has happened to a few people because of the bad neighbour. Too much to go through. MH, yes, the intimidator could have MH issues. The good neighbour is now having MH issues where she never had it before. The "w" word is what the rest of the estate have named her. It started with the kids because of her hedge and their knowledge of her. Just mentioned it as it is not me who named her. Intimidation has been non stop, with gatherings, parties, music, shouting, smoking garden chimneys, bon fires and other mis-adventures that i wont go into as proof is some what lacking.
Every little intimidation builds and adds up until some people cannot take it no more. Some people are strong and can speak direct, like myself, some cannot and are frail, frightened and even petrified. When i have knocked the good neighbours door these last few weeks, she comes to the door with a petrified face, not knowing who is on the other side.
The bad neighbours business is criminal law. She knows how to use it and she knows when to just be on the edge of crossing the line but staying within the law. Very clever person vocally, knows how to speak up and keep speaking when others try to talk her down.
So back to the question............... Can you take photographic evidence for evidence legally when taking it from your own property when someone is intimidating you and smoking your house out.?

Sicard

mikeyranson wrote: »

ok ok ok. There have been many issues on our estate where intimidation has happened to a few people because of the bad neighbour. Too much to go through. MH, yes, the intimidator could have MH issues. The good neighbour is now having MH issues where she never had it before. The "w" word is what the rest of the estate have named her. It started with the kids because of her hedge and their knowledge of her. Just mentioned it as it is not me who named her. Intimidation has been non stop, with gatherings, parties, music, shouting, smoking garden chimneys, bon fires and other mis-adventures that i wont go into as proof is some what lacking.
Every little intimidation builds and adds up until some people cannot take it no more. Some people are strong and can speak direct, like myself, some cannot and are frail, frightened and even petrified. When i have knocked the good neighbours door these last few weeks, she comes to the door with a petrified face, not knowing who is on the other side.
The bad neighbours business is criminal law. She knows how to use it and she knows when to just be on the edge of crossing the line but staying within the law. Very clever person vocally, knows how to speak up and keep speaking when others try to talk her down.
So back to the question............... Can you take photographic evidence for evidence legally when taking it from your own property when someone is intimidating you and smoking your house out.?

As far as I know yes. But seeking legal advice on forums is not ideal. Your best bet is to use CAB or some solicitors give a free half an hours consultation.

mikeyranson

Many thanks,
laurie,
thought i would try here for speed first. It is seven weeks wait for CAB and fishing around various police station sby hone, has not gained us any other info but " we dont know".

many thanks

daytona0

Laurie_Sicard-Askey wrote: »

It appears because this 'witch' is a criminal lawyer she is also extremely clever, has a nasty nature (in psychology that would be classified as an anal retentive sadistic type character) and does her best to harass the OP's neighbour. She is probably very influential to allow her to get away with antisocial behaviour that most of us wouldn't. I hope that explains things.

You've just profiled some woman you don't know, based on a third party account of events! Anal retentive sadistic type character?! nasty nature? extremely clever (implied as being in a manipulative way)? antisocial behaviour?

You sit there with zero tangible evidence and only a third party account of the events. Why are you so blindly leaping to conclusion? Isn't part of being a MH professional learning to be impartial?

KingS6

hollydays wrote: »

You sell camera recording equipment don't you, op?

Hats off if you know what this is?