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Swiss offer EU solution for Britain
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I can see some kind of cap being allowed, say 1% of population after which people have to go on a waiting list and wait until next year. .
Net migration from the EU to the UK was less than a fifth of that last year.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
If the Norwegians would allow us into EFTa that would be ideal.
It's ironic that we created EFTA in a fit of pique at being balked in our attempt to join the EU. And we walked out on it, jumping ship into the EEC and took along a bunch of the other countries we'd recruited into into it. and now...
We've looked ahead and looked in the rear-view mirror and decided to go back cap-in-hand to the partner we've deserted. Oops!
"Erm, you'll remember us when we went out to buy a pint of EEC milk a few decades ago and didn't make it back" :rotfl:There is no honour to be had in not knowing a thing that can be known - Danny Baker0 -
The Swiss are in the same position but are too small to have any clout. It's quite sensible that we should team up and try to negotiate some kind of single market access with limited free movement of people deal.
Could always try to get Norway involved too.
Yes this was one of the ideas I was kicking around on here prior to the referendum, namely teaming up with Switzerland, perhaps Norway and the others.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »The EU must and will hold firm.
Free movement of people is as vital for a single market as free movement of goods or capital.
Total Bollox.0 -
Could we accept freedom of movement with some restrictions on it such as limiting it to those who are self supporting?
Yes this is the sort of thing I expect.
More than anything, it is soft touch Britain that irritates so many of us. By all means co e here, but don't sponge (no need to provide links to niave academic stats on claim rates, they are irrelevant and meaningless, academics do not interview a proper spectrum of immigrants).0 -
Yes this is the sort of thing I expect.
More than anything, it is soft touch Britain that irritates so many of us. By all means co e here, but don't sponge (no need to provide links to niave academic stats on claim rates, they are irrelevant and meaningless, academics do not interview a proper spectrum of immigrants).
The research on this topic has naff all to do with academics interviewing people.
It's simply the figures of how many people who were an EU citizen when they were first issued their NI number (even if they have since become a UK citizen) that claim benefits or tax credits.
By the way - around 90% of EU migrants do not claim tax credits.
Less than 5% claim out of work benefits.
And they are less likely to live in council housing than the native born.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Free movement of people is vital to a single state solution....HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »The EU must and will hold firm.
Free movement of people is as vital for a single market as free movement of goods or capital.I think....0 -
Yes this is the sort of thing I expect.
More than anything, it is soft touch Britain that irritates so many of us. By all means co e here, but don't sponge (no need to provide links to niave academic stats on claim rates, they are irrelevant and meaningless, academics do not interview a proper spectrum of immigrants).
Or to put the comment in bold another way, "don't provide evidence that might disprove my point of view, I don't like it"0 -
Don't be silly, you knew it was figurative.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Net migration from the EU to the UK was less than a fifth of that last year.Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.0 -
Free movement of people on paper but I can see there being some kind of restriction. I can see some kind of cap being allowed, say 1% of population after which people have to go on a waiting list and wait until next year.
Not the kind of thing Merkel would like, but hopefully she will be gone soon anway.
If a few key people in the EU are replaced we could see a completely different negotiating position.
1% a year is 20% in 20 years and 30% in 30 years
that level would totally transform the country0
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