New employer has rejected holiday

warby68

Without knowing why the request was refused, it is difficult to comment on its fairness.

It does seem very odd though that a senior staff member would not mention a pre-booked holiday at any stage during the application and confirmation process. A planned absence in the first few months of a new job is quite significant. You say she wasn't asked but why didn't she speak up? Surely she would have asked about leave policies knowing she needed some fairly soon.

I doubt many people would feel it good practice to bowl up on Day 1 and put in a leave request as practically the first thing you do.

I would say tread carefully and find out the policy first. We can't book leave for the three weeks around Christmas unless we take it as our very first holiday choice for that year which is booked the previous October. In the October just before that Christmas, requests are considered on a 'one day at a time' basis only to ensure Christmas leave is spread fairly and adequate cover maintained. Its a bit convoluted but did evolve as fairest way. Just one example of a leave policy you might not be expecting.

Jamiesmum

Many companies don't offer any annual leave near Christmas. I don't understand why she didn't bring this up before it's always one of the 'musts' when interviewing / training for a new job. Before you start (to be fair they should have asked) you tell them of any prebooked holidays/leave you have. I'm really surprised she didn't, I thought everyone did this.

She needs to find out why they've said no now. There must be a policy on the leave as 3 1/2 months is plenty of notice to ask, really.

Then depending on their reasoning she should take in proof of holiday and ask again.

She could take it higher up if needed.

Auntie-Dolly

Perhaps she has a job as one of Santas elves!

Takeaway_Addict

livewire_82 wrote: »

My wife started a new job today.
Before she started we had booked a holiday for December.
At no point during the recruitment process was she asked if she had any pre-booked holiday - nothing in the application form or during the interview. So she assumed it would be dealt with once she had started. She submitted the holiday request today, on her very first day and it was promptly rejected. Bearing in mind, we're talking a matter of 3 and a half months in advance. Is this new employer being unreasonable? Is there any way she can contest this?

It's also worth pointing out that the individual in question that personally made the choice to reject the holiday has evidently made life very difficult for my wife on her first day - no credit for doing a good job on her first day, no asking how it went. Just a number of criticisms including this one which had little substance. So I have my suspicions that she's a power hungry egotist or just sees her as a threat because she is a very capable senior member of staff.

It was dealt with....your wife is purely at fault on this as she should have checked it would be ok before accepting the job.

Has she asked why it was rejected, does teh company have a ban on holidays during this time?

xapprenticex

end of the day she is not getting a/l regardless of this thread, BUT IT COULD BE WORSE, SHE COULD BE JOBLESS!!!

Takeaway_Addict

warehouse wrote: »

What? Of course it isn't cheeky. So when is acceptable, 1 week, 1 month, 3 months? I presume she has a holiday entitlement to the end of the tax year so what's the problem trying to book for a quarter of a year away?

Sounds to me like a power hungry boss, or should I say "thick" boss.

OP she needs to ask why it was rejected, day 1 or whatever, she has every right to an explanation.

How do you know? Could be valid reasons as to why it was rejected.

And no, she isn't entitled to a reason for rejectioon but most employers would give one

[Deleted User]

A lot of new employers now make it as awkward as possible to book holiday for one reason... I'm 8 weeks in current job and never been shown the booking system so cannot even access it : ( every time having to come to an arrangement to work hours back, there is nothing in the staff handbook, job offer confirmation letter or contract about blooming holidays so I'm left to vent in the exit interview I'll soon be having as my only option, only option except making a grievance.

Though once a long standing retail worker told me it was impossible of an new employer to refuse pre booked holiday of new starter - apologies I have no law on this but they were adamant it somehow existed.

I know somebody who went of on holiday once as relative newbie to never return - don't half admire them.

Alice_Walker

Deleted%20User wrote: »

A lot of new employers now make it as awkward as possible to book holiday for one reason... I'm 8 weeks in current job and never been shown the booking system so cannot even access it : ( every time having to come to an arrangement to work hours back, there is nothing in the staff handbook, job offer confirmation letter or contract about blooming holidays so I'm left to vent in the exit interview I'll soon be having as my only option, only option except making a grievance.

Though once a long standing retail worker told me it was impossible of an new employer to refuse pre booked holiday of new starter - apologies I have no law on this but they were adamant it somehow existed.

I know somebody who went of on holiday once as relative newbie to never return - don't half admire them.

Would this be the second job you've left for frivolous reasons in as many months? A lack of water (despite many solutions being offered) and now an inability to work out the holiday booking system. The more constructive solution would be speaking to your line manager, or theirs if they are not helpful.

You have no law on your retail worker gained advice because such a law does not exist.

sangie595

Deleted%20User wrote: »

Though once a long standing retail worker told me it was impossible of an new employer to refuse pre booked holiday of new starter - apologies I have no law on this but they were adamant it somehow existed.
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And I am quite adamant that the moon is made of cheese.

That "law" does not exist.

LKRDN_Morgan

Jeez why don't people take some responsibility? Just because the employer never asked doesn't mean your wife shouldn't have said. It's a pretty standard end of interview discussion

Short of begging I can't see how else she'll get it off. Could she negotiate it unpaid? Or sweet talk whoever else has got AL booked at the same time?