Microsoft should be totally ashamed - W10 uninvited massive 2 hour update is CR#P

AndyPix

AndyPix

Agreed with RumRat - Im out .....

almillar

Microsoft lied!

About what? In one sentence.

First they stopped all Hotmail accounts working with it during the last month ... after issuing warnings, they just stopped it dead

Please stop using Windows Live Mail 2012. Take MS's hint! There are better email programs out there (Thunderbird) or just use webmail.
How much do you pay for Hotmail? Windows Live Mail 2012? How long did they say they would support this software for?

Nothing in what you have questioned is particularly useful to normal users is it

You're not a normal user, though you're convinced that you are. I would suggest that 'normal' or 'the majority' of Windows 10 installations, are on devices with wired or wireless networking, that are always, or often, connected to fixed, permanent broadband internet, not limited 3G/4G mobile connections. Even for people with this system, there are settings, which you've admitted to not having set correctly. Is this MS's fault?

There surely has to be a prize for the first person that can get to the same place inside two or three clicks

Often faster to search, which has been made easier. I guess if you click 'start' and type 'metered connections' you would be able to find the setting.

Actually I use internet security recommended and paid for by a bank. Silly me!

You don't trust MS, but you do trust banks?!

Whoever heard of anyone suggesting that Adobe Flashplayer or Adobe Acrobat were risky products to use,

What? Adobe Flash is one of the riskiest pieces of software to run - haven't you heard the jokes about how often it's updated?

They owe a firm duty to safeguard those whose lives they otherwise interrupt totally unreasonably

Sure thing. They even provide backup software FREE with Windows 10, which you didn't bother to use.

They [backups] aren't really for 'normal users' to try,

You must be joking. Are you stuck in 1985? Don't you think computers are for 'normal' people? 'Normal' people these days have family photos, documents and all sorts of stuff on their computers that they absolutely SHOULD be backing up. It's not sexy or exciting, but it has to be done. Plenty of 'backup drives' are bought, so I would hope that they are used for the intention they are marketed. How you can call yourself a seasoned user, with experience of tape backups, and NOT perform a backup or restore, before a big system update, is beyond me.

agarnett

I say I say I say

Sun has gone behind a cloud for a bit, and I fancied an afternoon cuppa ... look what the cat's dragged in now

There's a few IT narrow-minded types about in this forum are there not? :rotfl:

And me a pesky 1969 certified computer user who shouldn't be let loose with a PC in 2016? Too right - I might explode too many myths put about by the narrow-minded types!

Microsoft lied in their W10 Redstone 1 operating system error message when they put a false claim about a missing OS file in a dialog box under my nose. I had of course foolishly tried to start Windows Live Mail - and got told No Can Do - MSVCR100.DLL is missing! (It wasn't) - it seems that during the W10 Anniversary Update, Windows Live Mail simply hadn't been told to go back to where it last saw it and to find it and reassociate itself with it

Windows Live Mail is not an "out of date" program. You can still download it and install it direct from Microsoft. It's their program, no-one else's

Fact is they don't fancy supporting it any more. They didn't fancy supporting XP as long as they did, and I don't suppose they much fancy still having to support it for the Western world's security agencies, but there you go ... sometimes that's the way the cookie crumbles for corporates with big ideas that clash with government ideas.

I can't say if I'd set the metered connection setting correctly. All I can say is that it was switched off after the update! Nor can any of you say how it was with any certainty.

I can't say if I chose to defer upgrades - all I can say is that I don't seem to have the option after the update. Again, nor can any of you with certainty.

I can't say why I have been using W10 for over a year and I have no checkbox option to show other restore points. Nor can any of you!

For all I know, someone forgot to code it so the check box appears in my particular version.

I fly on jet airplanes without a parachute - no backups!

Hell, I even fly in 60 year old single piston engined aircraft with no parachute - I got wings man and I know how to glide - what more do I need?

If I run a business from my home PC, then sure, there'd be backups - been there done all that over 20 years ago as I already said.

As it is, there's currently very little on my Asus hard drive that I couldn't live without and if its that important I have other copies on other drives and/or memory sticks. But why should I have to justify my thin backup regime to you narrow minded types who are scared of flying in your latest technology without parachutes for every excursion - or so you would have your readers believe ?

PS Anything starting with 'met' yields no results in Search Windows on my PC in its current state - In a sentence, explain what went wrong to cause that :rotfl:

PPS What on earth makes you think that the thousands of us who have been using a mixture of IMAP4 and POP3 and Local Folders and multiple email accounts since you were in short trousers want to "just use webmail" when Windows Live Mail already does what we want? I know that if I want to back up the data in it, there'll be a well trod well documented path enabling me to get it out again without having to spend the day reading up on moving email files from Thunderbird to some other email client. And prompted by you, I just read a bit about Thunderbird - am I to ignore the Wikipedia commentary:

However, if used in Local Folder mode, as is the case for POP3 email storage and other offline email stores, it has a usable limit of 4 GB, with data corruption possible if this size is exceeded,[22] although Thunderbird tries to detect and prevent this. The limit was being actively worked on by developers in 2013[24] and remains open;[needs update?] it does not affect IMAP mail storage.[22] Compaction of near-4 GB mailboxes is also potentially "very slow".[22]

An issue also exists related to overly-long filenames in some cases, since Thunderbird must rely on the local computer for filing system limitations, while external email (IMAP especially) can have nested email folders with arbitrary length paths and filenames that cannot be stored under their intended paths and names.[22]

PPPS I don't trust any organisation completely, but I do trust my instincts that when I fly with my chosen airline there is a good chance the engines will work pretty well, and that I'll be one of the first to notice it if they don't, and that the two pilots will make a fairly good job of handling most situations and provide a landing 9999999 times out of 10000000 which I can walk away from. I don't make funeral plans before every flight! Do you, Al?

Seriously, what proportion of Home users do you believe implement any kind of back-up regime, let alone a decent one they fully understand, especially those in the third age who are fast becoming the significant minority?

Why don't computer manufacturers routinely fit some kind of live back up which isn't reliant on an internet connection i.e. a cloud?

A mandatory second physical hard drive would be a start if we needed to be worried, wouldn't it? Afterall, no new car on our roads has been let loose with less than dual circuit brakes for decades. Is the reason our £500 laptops come with just one drive the same reason why normal aircraft seats don't face backwards except for POTUS' seat on Air Force 1?

AndyPix

^^ What a post !!


You really arent as skilled as you would like yourself to believe are you ?

agarnett wrote: »

Why don't computer manufacturers routinely fit some kind of live back up which isn't reliant on an internet connection i.e. a cloud?

Tip : research previous versions / VSS (It's next to the rear gunner)

agarnett

AndyPix wrote: »

^^ What a post !!

You really arent as skilled as you would like yourself to believe are you ?

Tip : research previous versions / VSS (It's next to the rear gunner)

Course I am skilled - I started with "How What Why" in 1964 and now I know how aircraft glide safely because I tried it once:p

Why don't I have a clue what you are on about when you say VSS? Because you haven't given the slightest suggestion that it is for anyone other than pointy heads! But just for you I'll Google it!

AndyPix

But you are a pointy head ,aren't you ?
You have mentioned this many times in this thread.


Someone with such L337 skillz as yourself should not have to be told about the existence of something as basic as VSS.


Come on

RumRat

agarnett wrote: »

Course I am skilled - I started with "How What Why" in 1964 and now I know how aircraft glide safely because I tried it once:p

Why don't I have a clue what you are on about when you say VSS? Because you haven't given the slightest suggestion that it is for anyone other than pointy heads! But just for you I'll Google it!

Apart from your self promotion, there is no demonstration in any of your posts that you have any skill whatsoever.
Unfortunately your head is so far up your own backside you can't see how ridiculous your posts are.
Ask the nurses if they can find you a jigsaw, I'm sure you'll find that easier.;):cool:

agarnett

AndyPix wrote: »

But you are a pointy head,aren't you ?
You have mentioned this many times in this thread.

Nope - I am a normal shaped head person with computer skills, and amazingly broad other skills, as opposed to a normal person with only computer skills or a geek or pointy head all of whom may be hampered by limited world views

Someone with such L337 skillz as yourself should not have to be told about the existence of something as basic as VSS.

I don't claim to be part of any Elite, nor to be consciously using NTFS - you tell me? I thought I stopped using it when I foolishly thought that using NTFS file encryption was a sensible feature and then tried reinstalling Windows :rotfl:

Come on

Come on, what? :rotfl:

Oh I see Rum Rat doesn't like that I am still here causing his beloved Microsoft to continue to suffer headline criticism for a lazy W10 update implementation that cost me, a resourceful chap, to miss an entire gym session yesterday so I could be sure my PC would work ok this week!

Get over it Rum Rat! I thought you two had signed out of this thread, hours ago anyway!

AndyPix

Come on - as in you are asking the most basic questions while clamining to have computer skills.

agarnett wrote: »

with computer skills!

agarnett wrote: »

nor to be consciously using NTFS - you tell me? !

Just LOL