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Microsoft should be totally ashamed - W10 uninvited massive 2 hour update is CR#P

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  • AndyPix
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    Sigh .. Trumpet = blown

    agarnett wrote: »
    I am a very seasoned PC user
    agarnett wrote: »
    I really feel for ordinary MSE'ers
    agarnett wrote: »
    I am the sort of user whom family and friends turns to when their PC starts playing up.
    agarnett wrote: »
    I possess very high standards of skill, and knowledge
    agarnett wrote: »
    No need to knock my skill - my skill is in managing my own risk in this case quite well, thanks
    agarnett wrote: »
    I think I did pretty good in fixing my machine
    agarnett wrote: »
    those like you and me who are confident we can solve most of what is thrown at us
    agarnett wrote: »
    If you have been around computers as long as I have
    agarnett wrote: »
    smile about have slayed the dreaded Microsoft multi-headed dragon
    agarnett wrote: »
    With my broad skillset
    agarnett wrote: »
    been there done all that over 20 years ago as I already said.
    agarnett wrote: »
    Course I am skilled


    And my favourite :-

    agarnett wrote: »
    my machine is likely to be in the top 5% cleanest best maintained PC's in the world


    Right behind Bill Gates XD
  • RumRat
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    agarnett wrote: »
    Nope - I am a normal shaped head person with computer skills, and amazingly broad other skills, as opposed to a normal person with only computer skills or a geek or pointy head all of whom may be hampered by limited world views ;)

    I don't claim to be part of any Elite, nor to be consciously using NTFS - you tell me? I thought I stopped using it when I foolishly thought that using NTFS file encryption was a sensible feature and then tried reinstalling Windows :rotfl:

    Come on, what? :rotfl:

    Oh I see Rum Rat doesn't like that I am still here causing his beloved Microsoft to continue to suffer headline criticism for a lazy W10 update implementation that cost me, a resourceful chap, to miss an entire gym session yesterday so I could be sure my PC would work ok this week!

    Get over it Rum Rat! I thought you two had signed out of this thread, hours ago anyway!
    Not often you are right, but....no, you still aren't.
    Does the matron check your internet activity regularly?.....Maybe she should.
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  • agarnett
    agarnett Posts: 1,301 Forumite
    edited 5 September 2016 at 5:55PM
    AndyPix

    You seem to be revelling in trying to ridicule an MSE'er who brought a genuine grievance about Microsoft's W10 Anniversary Update to the Techie Forum as a warning to the great unwashed.

    Your tactic here seems diametrically opposed to helping other MSE'ers - you seem to want to suggest that I am the author of my own problems when I have given you no evidence to suggest it, and you seem to want to suggest that problems with W10 Anniversary Update are of inconsequential effect to the majority of users but you give no evidence for that either. And because you don't like me suggesting otherwise based on my personal experience of the update on a very typical Home Edition of W10, you are now attacking me personally.

    It is clear that you think that using scarcely understood urban dictionary terms like L337 are clever, and throwing in other scarcely understood IT jargon like VSS is also clever. You are the one who seems very anxious to tell your small world of like minded fellows that you are L337 like them.

    I humoured you by looking it up, but when I was prompted that VSS was the formal name for a feature originally available with NTFS but not previous file systems, I was unsure of the file system used in W10 and said so. NTFS wasn't much used in Home computers, even though it was common in the workplace.

    The exact nature of the file system in W10 seems little known outside insider circles, but it does seem that it supports a variety of VSS of some sort, and that it is on by default. Exactly what benefits it gives and how to configure it meaningfully is no doubt in the realm of Microsoft Certified persons who need to be certified in order to do the jobs they do ;)

    However, I am not sure why you mentioned VSS at all, other than to demonstrate your command of jargon, and in the manner of a cat playing with a mouse who has been bold enough to complain about the quality of the cheese.

    I always did like Tom & Jerry sketches :rotfl:

    But back to backups and all that - In the context of losing the whole physical drive, I can't really see the relevance of VSS if we are talking about single physical drive PC's with no separate network storage available?

    Please don't knock my claim about computer skills - you have no cause to. Sure I don't have a Computer Science or Datology degree and am not MS Certified like you probably are, but that does not make my skills and resourcefulness in problem solving around typical home devices of no consequence, thank you very much. Nor does it mean I can't criticise Microsoft.

    All those statements you have spent so much time lovingly collating which state my take on where in a computerised world I stand are perfectly true.

    I started programming computers approaching 50 years ago! The first thing I learned was Garbage In Garbage Out, and that lesson is one surprisingly still to be learned by too many persons earning their living from computing. Are you one such?

    Conversely, I didn't make my living directly from it. My knowledge of how it could be used in business helped me make a living in a quite different field of business where IT services were just that - simply a central service to the real business.

    So I can still quite rightly and perfectly validly warn that W10 Anniversary Update was a pile of cr¤p for me yesterday when I first encountered it, whereas you might prefer not to promulgate that view for understandable reasons of self-preservation and avoidance of boat-rocking up your chosen creek. I have no such restrictions hampering me - I am not commenting from an IT professional standpoint but merely from a usability standpoint, aren't I?
  • Fair play to the OP, quality trolling :beer:
  • giraffe69
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    I think agarnett is an excellent user name to go with all this ranting.
  • John_Gray
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    Surely you can't be referring to Alf Garnett?!

    "Generally Alf blamed his problems on everybody but himself. His family was the usual target of his anger and frustration. In the shows, Garnett was regularly ridiculed for his illogical views and hypocrisy by his family, but he stubbornly refused to admit he was wrong."
  • Fair play to the OP, quality trolling :beer:

    I hope he sticks around. This is all great fun!
  • RumRat
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    stockton wrote: »
    I hope he sticks around. This is all great fun!
    Yes, he must be fed.......:D
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  • agarnett
    agarnett Posts: 1,301 Forumite
    edited 5 September 2016 at 7:48PM
    http://windowsreport.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-antivirus/

    I quote:
    To make things even worse, it seems that many top antivirus programs are now useless after installing the Windows 10 Anniversary Update on your computer. According to reports, there are problems with Avast, Intel Security, Kaspersky lab and many others. It seems that some of the features that these antivirus programs come with are being disabled, the systems are crashing and there are a good amount of blue screens.

    Microsoft has already confirmed that the problem is with the Windows 10 Anniversary Update’s compatibility checks and that it is currently working on a patch that will fix all these issues. The patch is expected to be released this month, but it seems that Kaspersky has already its own update in order to temporary fix this problem.

    See also http://support.kaspersky.com/12201

    And this: http://support.kaspersky.com/11736

    No Kaspersky support for Microsoft Edge?? :eek: (no only joking . No one seriously uses Edge do they? :p

    They do? For personal banking? With no Kaspersky protection currently ? Hadn't someone better do something about that, sharpish like?


    Nice of Microsoft to stuff my Kaspersky protected machine regardless.


    Oh oh there's more ... my PC is an Asus and remember that weird Touchpad dialog I mentioned? Well lookie here:

    http://windowsreport.com/windows-10-anniversary-update-asus-smart-gesture/


    As I was saying before I strayed into this den of easily bought, Microsoft fed insiders ...

    Cr¤p
  • AndyPix
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    agarnett wrote: »
    as a warning to the great unwashed.
    Im sure your fellow MSE'ers will love that
    agarnett wrote: »
    you seem to want to suggest <snip>
    Read back .. All i did was suggest answers to your questions, but then you got all silly
    agarnett wrote: »
    you are now attacking me personally.
    Nothing personal pal, you're just being silly saying things like ..
    agarnett wrote: »
    scarcely understood IT jargon like VSS
    I also pointed out its other name, "pervious versions". And its not exactly voodoo or hard to use,
    you simply right click a file or folder and then click "resotre previous versions"
    And hey presto, you are using it.
    You must understand that when you shout about your skills but dont know something as basic as that,
    it makes you look a bit silly
    agarnett wrote: »
    I am not sure why you mentioned VSS at all
    You asked of an in-built back up system
    agarnett wrote: »
    Please don't knock my claim about computer skills - you have no cause to
    You dont demonstrate that you have any - whatsoever
    agarnett wrote: »
    Nor does it mean I can't criticise Microsoft.
    Criticise away, im with you brother
    If you need any more help just let us know
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