Restaurants - please ask who gets the tips

minimacka

When I eat anywhere I always ask who gets the tips just so I can make sure the staff gets them and not the company. I really don't mind tipping for good service and a nice pleasant server, where we go they are usually students trying to get by on their student loan so a little bit more cash is usually very well appreciated.

mai_taylor

JReacher1 wrote: »

It's harder work being waiting staff and is a more skilled job than someone who works in a shop.

You have to remember the tips also go to people in the kitchen as well e.g trained cooks etc.

It's a hell of a lot harder working as carer looking after the elderly and the disabled but my oh did that for a long time on not much more than minimum wage without being tipped for it and he always gave the best level of care he could despite the low wages.

I also work in customer service having to deal with a lot of difficult customers often getting abuse down the phone which isn't easy to deal with but it's my job I do it without expecting any extras I don't see why restaurant staff should be an exception, their job is not anymore challenging than most people's.

JReacher1

mai_taylor wrote: »

It's a hell of a lot harder working as carer looking after the elderly and the disabled but my oh did that for a long time on not much more than minimum wage without being tipped for it and he always gave the best level of care he could despite the low wages.

I also work in customer service having to deal with a lot of difficult customers often getting abuse down the phone which isn't easy to deal with but it's my job I do it without expecting any extras I don't see why restaurant staff should be an exception, their job is not anymore challenging than most people's.

I don't think being a carer is harder than working in a restaurant.

It is definitely harder than working as a CSO adviser!

gettingtheresometime

Many moons ago I went to NY with my mum.

I paid for the meal by card leaving the tip section blank as I intended to give a cash tip . Before I could hand over the dosh the manager came , genuinely concerned that we hadn't given a tip as he was concerned there had been an issue with the service.

Staying at a budget chain hotel last week, I noticed that it stated that all cash receipts were kept by the staff but if a tip was given on the card, then it would be added to the pay less income tax & NI.

Detroit

JReacher1 wrote: »

I don't think being a carer is harder than working in a restaurant.

It is definitely harder than working as a CSO adviser!

A carer is required to carry out a wide range of difficult, and most would consider unpleasant, tasks including toiletting,washing, feeding and cleaning up, including bodily fluids.

Cared for people with some conditions can verbally abuse and physically assault their carers.

Working with people with severe health conditions can be emotionally draining for those with empathy, who find it difficult to witness the suffering of others.

Lifting can be physically strenuous.

There is significant responsibility where the well-being of a vulnerable person is concerned, and the consequences of error are serious.

Restaurant staff prepare and serve food to people usually eating out as a leisure activity.

If they make an error the consequences are minimal.

The most unpleasant substance they encounter is half eaten food.

The greatest risk is an irate customer.

I would be very interested to know in what way restaurant work is harder than care work.
Particularly for someone who thinks fetching and removing plates is demeaning.

JReacher1

Detroit wrote: »

A carer is required to carry out a wide range of difficult, and most would consider unpleasant, tasks including toiletting,washing, feeding and cleaning up, including bodily fluids.

Cared for people with some conditions can verbally abuse and physically assault their carers.

Working with people with severe health conditions can be emotionally draining for those with empathy, who find it difficult to witness the suffering of others.

Lifting can be physically strenuous.

There is significant responsibility where the well-being of a vulnerable person is concerned, and the consequences of error are serious.

Restaurant staff prepare and serve food to people usually eating out as a leisure activity.

If they make an error the consequences are minimal.

The most unpleasant substance they encounter is half eaten food.

The greatest risk is an irate customer.

I would be very interested to know in what way restaurant work is harder than care work.
Particularly for someone who thinks fetching and removing plates is demeaning.

You're being a bit ridiculous.

You're comparing the worst possible role of a carer with the easiest role of a restaurant worker.

Obviously some caring work is harder than working in a restaurant but alot restaurant work is harder than being a carer. Not every carer has to go through the over the top scenarios you've listed and there is more to a restaurant worker than preparing and serving food.

In addition you go on about risks being minimal for a restaurant but if a customer says they have a nut allergy and the chef makes a mistake then they can kill that customer.

Thunderbird4

Detroit wrote: »

A carer is required to carry out a wide range of difficult, and most would consider unpleasant, tasks including toiletting,washing, feeding and cleaning up, including bodily fluids.

Cared for people with some conditions can verbally abuse and physically assault their carers.

Working with people with severe health conditions can be emotionally draining for those with empathy, who find it difficult to witness the suffering of others.

Lifting can be physically strenuous.

There is significant responsibility where the well-being of a vulnerable person is concerned, and the consequences of error are serious.

Restaurant staff prepare and serve food to people usually eating out as a leisure activity.

If they make an error the consequences are minimal.

The most unpleasant substance they encounter is half eaten food.

The greatest risk is an irate customer.

I would be very interested to know in what way restaurant work is harder than care work.
Particularly for someone who thinks fetching and removing plates is demeaning.

You're very patronising to people who work in restaurants. There is a lot more to working I'm a restaurant than "preparing and serving food".

I don't know why you feel the need to belittle the millions of people who work in restaurants to score a cheap point.

Georgiegirl256

Now I think that you are being more than a little ridiculous JReacher1.

If you truely believe that, then I don't think there's anything anyone can say to make you think otherwise.

I don't think it'll be too long before the custom of tipping dies out, and it won't be missed by the majority of people.

JReacher1

Georgiegirl256 wrote: »

Now I think that you are being more than a little ridiculous JReacher1.

If you truely believe that, then I don't think there's anything anyone can say to make you think otherwise.

I don't think it'll be too long before the custom of tipping dies out, and it won't be missed by the majority of people.

So you believe that every carer works harder than every restaurant worker? I feel that is more ridiculous.....

It's also ridiculous to think that tipping will die out soon.

Detroit

Thunderbird4 wrote: »

You're very patronising to people who work in restaurants. There is a lot more to working I'm a restaurant than "preparing and serving food".

I don't know why you feel the need to belittle the millions of people who work in restaurants to score a cheap point.

I'm quite confident that the majority of people working in restaurants would find nothing belittling or patronising about being said to prepare and serve food. It is after all the purpose of their role.


As for cheap points I think your blatant attempts to win support by mounting a defence for people I'm in no way attacking, is so cheap you should be paying me to take if off your hands.


You need to do much better than that.