Restaurants - please ask who gets the tips

Valli

And bear in mind that, if you're employed in the 'hospitality' trade HMRC will assume you ARE receiving tips and adjust your tax code accordingly.
Unless you can wriggle out of it, as I did, by pointing out company policy forbids staff from receiving tips.

Georgiegirl256

Robisere wrote: »

Anyone who thinks that waiting tables is not hard work, should try it for a few hours. Irritating, sometimes abusive customers, trying to smile whilst being either leered at or abused. Kitchen work in summer is hot and often dirty work.
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We got that whilst working in retail too *shudder* , and also because it was mainly men working there! women got spoken to like they couldn't possibly have any idea about anything.

Waiting tables is hard work, but it's not any harder than a lot of other jobs.

Detroit

JReacher1 wrote: »

Not tipping in the USA is inexcusable. It's a completely different culture to the UK and if you went anywhere and didn't tip then you're lucky you weren't verbally abused.

When you travel abroad you should adopt the customs of the country you are visiting and not follow your own countries customs.

It's the height of bad manners and what gives uk people a bad name when they travel.

20% is what the tourists are told. In reality many Americans throw down a couple of dollars at the end of the meal.

Detroit

JReacher1 wrote: »

Yes that is right. I unfortunately will have to penalise hard working people due to my dissatisfaction with the front of house person. This has happened very rarely (maybe twice in my life)

On your profession list I tip some of them but not all. It's all about what is the social norm.

You penalize hardworking people in order to follow a social norm?

Wow, that's some conditioning you've received there.

JReacher1

Detroit wrote: »

You penalize hardworking people in order to follow a social norm?

Wow, that's some conditioning you've received there.

No I penalise hard working people because the person I actually deal with offered service that was so bad I didn't want to tip anything as I resented her/him receiving a penny.

EDIT - I thought you were against the sarcastic comments and instead wanted to debate the points?

Torry_Quine

I don't like the notion of tipping someone for doing the job they are paid for. Many people are in low paid difficult jobs but for some reason we only deem some worthy of extra money! I will occasionally give a tip if someone has gone further than expected.

Detroit

:QUOTE=JReacher1;71213892]No I penalise hard working people because the person I actually deal with offered service that was so bad I didn't want to tip anything as I resented her/him receiving a penny.

EDIT - I thought you were against the sarcastic comments and instead wanted to debate the points?[/QUOTE]

No sarcasm here. My question and comment are meant quite literally.

JReacher1

Detroit wrote: »

:QUOTE=JReacher1;71213892]No I penalise hard working people because the person I actually deal with offered service that was so bad I didn't want to tip anything as I resented her/him receiving a penny.

EDIT - I thought you were against the sarcastic comments and instead wanted to debate the points?

No sarcasm here. My question and comment are meant quite literally.[/QUOTE]

Fair enough.

When posters are a bit underhand and join two separate statements together to try and score a cheap point I always suspect they are being deliberately mischievous....

pollypenny

Detroit wrote: »

20% is what the tourists are told. In reality many Americans throw down a couple of dollars at the end of the meal.

I don't think so. It's usual to pay by card and enter the amount of tip below the meal price.

15 or 20% is the norm.

In general service in the USA is very good. When it has not been, we've left a token tiny tip which shows that we haven't forgotten. Actually, I can only recall one bad place -Cibo in Philadelphia Airport.

Detroit

pollypenny wrote: »

I don't think so. It's usual to pay by card and enter the amount of tip below the meal price.

15 or 20% is the norm.

In general service in the USA is very good. When it has not been, we've left a token tiny tip which shows that we haven't forgotten. Actually, I can only recall one bad place -Cibo in Philadelphia Airport.

I guess we can all only comment based on our personal experiences of what we have observed.