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  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    You seem to forget that a union is its members.

    not in any significant sense.
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    not in any significant sense.
    No completely without members there is no union.
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    No completely without members there is no union.

    there can be employees without a union
    there is a higher incidents of strike in places with unions that those with employees
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    there can be employees without a union
    there is a higher incidents of strike in places with unions that those with employees

    True but the purpose of unions is to look after the interests of there members and if they don't they will lose them.
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    True but the purpose of unions is to look after the interests of there members and if they don't they will lose them.

    true

    which is why the law should be changed to redress the balance of power a little
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    true

    which is why the law should be changed to redress the balance of power a little
    The laws have changed significantly since the 70s and unions are not as powerful.
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    The laws have changed significantly since the 70s and unions are not as powerful.

    we are all grateful for that

    lets say minimum of 80% turnout for any strike vote.
  • ukcarper
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    we are all grateful for that

    lets say minimum of 80% turnout for any strike vote.
    So you think it's ok for a party that receives just over 20% of votes to run the country but that is not good enough for a union to call industrial action.
  • CLAPTON
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    So you think it's ok for a party that receives just over 20% of votes to run the country but that is not good enough for a union to call industrial action.

    I drive my bike in a different way to my car, don't you?
  • ukcarper
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    edited 30 August 2016 at 8:40PM
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    I drive my bike in a different way to my car, don't you?
    Don't have a bike, out of interest the turnout in the southern railways strike vote was 81%.

    Perhaps we should have used 80% turnout for EU referendum after all it's more important than the odd strike.
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