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An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn
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Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-virgin-trains-disputes-claim-over-lack-of-seats
If he really did walk past a load of unreserved seats and then sit down and moan to the camera about packed trains, then he and his advisors are startlingly thick. It's not exactly hard to find a genuinely rammed train to film on in Britain!
Who gets on a train and doesnt reserve a seat these days? Not exactly hard is it?Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
I disagree. Corbyn has made a strong pitch to the effect he will address the real issues that ordinary people have to deal with. If the train was packed and he had to sit on the floor it is a fair point. Equally fair is why have a camera crew following you? If they were making a film about Jeremy fair enough. If it was about crowded trains maybe not. Either way if Virgin have CCTV they can show the evidence. So far they have not as I understand.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0
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Wild_Rover wrote: »That's what they do on Scotrail - isn't it the same elsewhere? The reservation slips are on top of the seats.
Eg if a seat is reserved from, say, Perth to Edinburgh, anyone boarding the train north of Perth (Inverness, say) can occupy it until it reaches Perth.
W(not wanting to be Prime Minister but knows how public transport works)R
No other trsin lines use computer input.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
I suspect Virgin trains may have doctored their footage. A "source" has provided me with a alternative photograph from the same London to Edinburgh service. If you look carefully at the first coach, you can clearly see JC having to stand.
I know it's wrong but :rotfl::rotfl:Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
Shakethedisease wrote: »Don't talk rot. The thing this whole thing conveniently and totally ignores is that there were other train passengers sitting in corridors and the floor unable to find seats. Why were they there if there were plenty of free seats available ? Just for fun perhaps ?
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-virgin-trains-disputes-claim-over-lack-of-seats
Branson is taking you for a right mug. If there were lots of free seats, why were even little kids having to sit in corridors ? This story was timed to go out at the same time as ballot papers land in inboxes and mailboxes. And that's about the size of that.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
The fact that Corbyn was sat down at least one hour before the train arrived into it's first stop cannot be disputed. That makes the account of Corbyn's photojournalist a fabrication.
It's not unusual for find people sitting on the floor when there are empty seats. Particularly when the train first sets off. Some people just don't have the resourcefulness to find an empty seat by themselves. The leader of the opposition being one of them. They have to wait for staff to "shuffle them around". Other times, people wait five or ten minutes to see if there are any no-shows for the reserved seats.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
This probably demonstrates how little rail travel I do these days
I have never travelled by Scotrail or Virgin so I do not know. When I have used SW Trains and Cross Country Rail I have not noticed them do this but they may well do so.
Virgin trains are the best! Don't believe Corbyn's lies.Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0 -
The problem with that account given by Charles Anthony is the first stop the 11.00 am from Kings Cross makes is York at 12.50 pm. So unless an entire coach of people decided to alight a moving train to make way for JC, it doesn't hold much water.
https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/globalassets/downloads/pdf/timetables/monday-to-fridays-northbound080616.pdf
I am not a Corbyn fan but the Virgin Story is no more clear than Corbyn's account.
Regarding the point above I suspect that there is probably a standing order that if a prominent politician boards a busy train, create a few seats by shuffling some people to First Class. This may explain why things were better after 45 minutes.
I do like Corbyn's comment that he was unable to sit with his wife amusing. Unless you book why would anyone expect to sit next to someone else?Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
posh*spice wrote: »Virgin trains are the best! Don't believe Corbyn's lies.
I believe you! The competition is not that great I imagine.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
I am not a Corbyn fan but the Virgin Story is no more clear than Corbyn's account.
Regarding the point above I suspect that there is probably a standing order that if a prominent politician boards a busy train, create a few seats by shuffling some people to First Class. This may explain why things were better after 45 minutes.
I do like Corbyn's comment that he was unable to sit with his wife amusing. Unless you book why would anyone expect to sit next to someone else?
Quite. Nobody would expect to board an aeroplane and be able to sit where they wanted - why does thos luxury have to be afforded to trains!
Welcome to 2016 JC - you idiot!Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.0
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