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An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn

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  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
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    "Befuddled old fool misses empty seats and sits on floor"

    or

    "Politician uses cheap trick to score political points"

    Either way, who really cares. It isn't that unusual for a befuddled old fool / politician.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Malthusian wrote: »
    In this picture, on the right hand side, window seat, third row from the back. There's no-one sitting there and there's clearly no reserved sticker in the backrest.

    The reserved stickers are a red herring anyway as hardly anyone sits in their reserved seat normally. Unless the train is rammed - and this train wasn't - people sit wherever they please and only bother to find their reserved seat if they get asked to move. In all the years I've travelled on trains I've always sat in the first seat I find, usually with a reserved sticker, and I've only been turfed out by the guy who reserved it once.

    *edit*

    Apart from the above, a seat with a reserved sticker may only be reserved for a subsequent leg of the journey. So it is bonkers to stand or sit on the floor rather than sit in a seat with a reserved sticker. They're perfectly fair game until the guy with the ticket comes to claim it. You might get off before the owner comes to claim it, and even if you don't then at least you've had a seat for some of the journey.
    Wild_Rover wrote: »
    Without wishing to be TOO critical of someone who hopes that the British electorate will entrust him with the fate of the country, :D why would anyone travelling a long distance on seemingly crowded train service NOT reserve a seat?

    It doesn't require a leap of the imagination, surely? He is aware that you can book seats? :rotfl:

    We quite regularly travel on Scotrail services and unless it's a really short journey, or perhaps on an Edinburgh-Glasgow service which run every 15 minutes most of the time, we ALWAYS book seats.

    Doesn't say much for his forward planning skills really, does it?

    WR

    I suspect the answer has something to do with the first post.

    People do not like complaining.I once asked someone to vacate a seat I had reserved and they refused because someone was sitting in the seat he had reserved. I then asked the conductor who said that he would come back when he had finished his inspections. He never did so I had to stand.

    I do think it would be better if the operators put cards out saying reserved from A to B.

    I
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ wrote: »
    I suspect the answer has something to do with the first post.

    People do not like complaining.I once asked someone to vacate a seat I had reserved and they refused because someone was sitting in the seat he had reserved. I then asked the conductor who said that he would come back when he had finished his inspections. He never did so I had to stand.

    I do think it would be better if the operators put cards out saying reserved from A to B.

    I

    That's what they do on Scotrail - isn't it the same elsewhere? The reservation slips are on top of the seats.

    Eg if a seat is reserved from, say, Perth to Edinburgh, anyone boarding the train north of Perth (Inverness, say) can occupy it until it reaches Perth.

    W(not wanting to be Prime Minister but knows how public transport works)R
  • luckbox
    luckbox Posts: 122 Forumite
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    Goodness me.

    Normally when a politician gets caught out in a pr stunt like this, it will be a "source" that reveals all. I think for a company as high profile as Virgin to out him shows that they don't fear him and his nationalise the rail policy in any way.

    Why not use an actual crowded train for this stunt? Just wait until the summer holidays are over and students etc go back to universty all around the same day or take on a Brighton to London 7am train.
  • I am genuinely surprised he couldn't find a crowded train. I was under the impression that a crowd assembles spontaneously anywhere Yeremiy goes. I just assumed that everyone else on the train mobbed him.
  • kinger101
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    BobQ wrote: »
    Either way if Virgin have CCTV they can show the evidence. So far they have not as I understand.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37167700
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,572 Forumite
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    BobQ wrote: »
    I do think it would be better if the operators put cards out saying reserved from A to B.

    They already do.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    The train stunt was beautiful.

    That's who he is. That's the man right there. Bless him in his world of make-believe.

    If Labour splits it might actually end up a better party if Jeremy takes all the idiots with him (including from the membership, looking at you RT). Jeremy's brigade of social justice warriors can then pull stunts like this to keep themselves entertained and the rest of us can all get on with our lives safe in the knowledge there's a competent opposition that doesn't involve this muppet.
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,572 Forumite
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    I suspect Virgin trains may have doctored their footage. A "source" has provided me with a alternative photograph from the same London to Edinburgh service. If you look carefully at the first coach, you can clearly see JC having to stand.

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    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • The train stunt was beautiful.

    That's who he is. That's the man right there. Bless him in his world of make-believe.

    If Labour splits it might actually end up a better party if Jeremy takes all the idiots with him (including from the membership, looking at you RT). Jeremy's brigade of social justice warriors can then pull stunts like this to keep themselves entertained and the rest of us can all get on with our lives safe in the knowledge there's a competent opposition that doesn't involve this muppet.

    It really IS Silly season.
    New footage from Corbyn’s train trip on the 11 August has been sent to the Guardian in which someone standing next to him says, in seeming reference to a lack of seats: ‘Hopefully at York some people will get off.’
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-walks-through-packed-carriage-during-11-august-train-trip-video
    Other people on the train have however come forward to say it was in fact very busy, at least at the start of the journey. One passenger, Keren Harrison, posted a picture of herself on the train with Mr Corbyn and gave an account of events that contradicted the company's version.


    "I was on said train and it was very busy!" she said. "He got seat about 45 mins in when staff started shuffling people around!"
    She added in another tweet that the train was "chock-a".


    Separately, Charles Anthony, a Corbyn-supporting video journalist who shot the original film also released new footage and disputed the company’s account.
    “Video footage of Corbyn sitting down is after he filmed video. And after people got off,” he said in a series of tweets.
    He also posted new footage of Mr Corbyn walking through a busy train corridor and of other passengers seating on the floor during the same journey.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/passengers-dispute-virgin-trains-version-of-jeremy-corbyn-sitting-on-floor-video-a7205631.html


    I doubt this will have a single Corbyn supporter rushing to vote for Smith tbh. It's such a transparent and flimsy stitch up. :cool:
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
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