An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn

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Shakethedisease wrote: »

I doubt this will have a single Corbyn supporter rushing to vote for Smith tbh. It's such a transparent and flimsy stitch up. :cool:

handy having a photo opportunity like that, just when you happen to be travelling with your own photographer

westernpromise

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

If Labour splits it might actually end up a better party if Jeremy takes all the idiots with him (including from the membership, looking at you RT). .

That's pretty much what the Tories did with their equivalent, UKIP, Made them much nicer, much more electable and refreshingly free of spiteful, nasty loonies.

kinger101

Shakethedisease wrote: »

It really IS Silly season.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/video/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-walks-through-packed-carriage-during-11-august-train-trip-video

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/passengers-dispute-virgin-trains-version-of-jeremy-corbyn-sitting-on-floor-video-a7205631.html


I doubt this will have a single Corbyn supporter rushing to vote for Smith tbh. It's such a transparent and flimsy stitch up. :cool:

The problem with that account given by Charles Anthony is the first stop the 11.00 am from Kings Cross makes is York at 12.50 pm. So unless an entire coach of people decided to alight a moving train to make way for JC, it doesn't hold much water.

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/globalassets/downloads/pdf/timetables/monday-to-fridays-northbound080616.pdf

michaels

The BBC have finally realised this story is anti-corbyn and thus anti-tory and given it the top story prominence they therefore beleive it merits - previously it had only been one of the little front page stories....

Shakethedisease

kinger101 wrote: »

The problem with that account given by Charles Anthony is the first stop the 11.00 am from Kings Cross makes is York at 12.50 pm. So unless an entire coach of people decided to alight a moving train to make way for JC, it doesn't hold much water.

https://www.virgintrainseastcoast.com/globalassets/downloads/pdf/timetables/monday-to-fridays-northbound080616.pdf

Don't talk rot. The thing this whole thing conveniently and totally ignores is that there were other train passengers sitting in corridors and the floor unable to find seats. Why were they there if there were plenty of free seats available ? Just for fun perhaps ?

Other passengers sitting in corridors were also found seats during this period, as Virgin staff moved some people to booked seats which had not been occupied...

...told the Guardian that Corbyn had seemingly gone through the entire standard-class section of the train but had not been able to find a seat. The 26-year-old, who was with her one-year-old daughter and son, aged six, said she had similarly been unable to find seats.

“He’s not lying,” she said. “When I saw him he was in coach A, right at the front. He hadn’t managed to find a seat in the whole of the train. I was sat on the floor, there was no space for me to get a seat. There were people in every space between every carriage. It was totally overcrowded. They were full of bags and full of people.”

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-virgin-trains-disputes-claim-over-lack-of-seats

Branson is taking you for a right mug. If there were lots of free seats, why were even little kids having to sit in corridors ? This story was timed to go out at the same time as ballot papers land in inboxes and mailboxes. And that's about the size of that.

kinger101

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Don't talk rot. The thing this whole thing conveniently and totally ignores is that there were other train passengers sitting in corridors and the floor unable to find seats. Why were they there if there were plenty of free seats available ? Just for fun perhaps ?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-virgin-trains-disputes-claim-over-lack-of-seats

Branson is taking you for a right mug. If there were lots of free seats, why were even little kids having to sit in corridors ? This story was timed to go out at the same time as ballot papers land in inboxes and mailboxes. And that's about the size of that.

The fact that Corbyn was sat down at least one hour before the train arrived into it's first stop cannot be disputed. That makes the account of Corbyn's photojournalist a fabrication.

It's not unusual for find people sitting on the floor when there are empty seats. Particularly when the train first sets off. Some people just don't have the resourcefulness to find an empty seat by themselves. The leader of the opposition being one of them. They have to wait for staff to "shuffle them around". Other times, people wait five or ten minutes to see if there are any no-shows for the reserved seats.

Shakethedisease

kinger101 wrote: »

The fact that Corbyn was sat down at least one hour before the train arrived into it's first stop cannot be disputed. That makes the account of Corbyn's photojournalist a fabrication.

Or Virgin staff 'shuffling people about' embarrassed that the Leader of the Opposition was sitting on the floor more like. Bet they wouldn't give a hoot otherwise.

It's not unusual for find people sitting on the floor when there are empty seats. Particularly when the train first sets off. Some people just don't have the resourcefulness to find an empty seat by themselves. The leader of the opposition being one of them. They have to wait for staff to "shuffle them around". Other times, people wait five or ten minutes to see if there are any no-shows for the reserved seats.

Well maybe he felt that plonking his bum down on any seat ( if there indeed were any ) when there was a mother holding a one year old baby and a 6 year old child having to make do with the floor, and probably many like her.... wouldn't be a very nice thing to do. I mean he is 67, but one has to have some sense of British fair play after all.

The media would be just as up in arms if Corbyn had elbowed folks like the above aside and sat himself down first surely ? He observed in his interview that the train in question was absolutely rammed. As far as I can tell, and from other passengers accounts he was 100% correct on that particular observation regardless of when he himself did get to sit on an actual seat.

BobQ

Wild_Rover wrote: »

That's what they do on Scotrail - isn't it the same elsewhere? The reservation slips are on top of the seats.

Eg if a seat is reserved from, say, Perth to Edinburgh, anyone boarding the train north of Perth (Inverness, say) can occupy it until it reaches Perth.
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kinger101 wrote: »

They already do.

This probably demonstrates how little rail travel I do these days I have never travelled by Scotrail or Virgin so I do not know. When I have used SW Trains and Cross Country Rail I have not noticed them do this but they may well do so.

kinger101

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Or Virgin staff 'shuffling people about' embarrassed that the Leader of the Opposition was sitting on the floor more like. Bet they wouldn't give a hoot otherwise.

Well maybe he felt that plonking his bum down on any seat ( if there indeed were any ) when there was a mother holding a one year old baby and a 6 year old child having to make do with the floor, and probably many like her.... wouldn't be a very nice thing to do. I mean he is 67, but one has to have some sense of British fair play after all.

The media would be just as up in arms if Corbyn had elbowed folks like the above aside and sat himself down first surely ? He observed in his interview that the train in question was absolutely rammed. As far as I can tell, and from other passengers accounts he was 100% correct on that particular observation regardless of when he himself did get to sit on an actual seat.

Maybe he had actually reserved a seat, but he saw some poor lepers who he felt needed the seats more. Shortly before he headed off to the buffet cart to magically feed 5000 with a cheese and pickle sandwich.

posh*spice

Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/23/jeremy-corbyn-virgin-trains-disputes-claim-over-lack-of-seats

If he really did walk past a load of unreserved seats and then sit down and moan to the camera about packed trains, then he and his advisors are startlingly thick. It's not exactly hard to find a genuinely rammed train to film on in Britain!

But really ? How hard is it to to reserve a seat on a train! Answer easy! Who the !!!! gets on a train without reserving a seat?!