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henm2

Going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 10 is a far steeper learning curve than that needed when figuring how to use Linux Mint. Linux Mint is quite an easy system to use. The days of having to use command lines etc are long gone.

Also support costs? There are none. Plenty of free advice available on the many forums.

prowla

joe134 wrote: »

being as they gave everyone so long to download w10 free, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't cut support for 7 and 8 sooner than 2020, forcing people to upgrade at a cost.
I've stayed with 7, my 10 year old acer will be due renewal for w11, when support is withdrawn..
if it ain't broke, why fix it.
I even still use a nokia 1100 phone
.luddite.
kiss;;;keep it short and simple

Desktops & laptops is a shrinking market.
Microsoft have bailed from the phone market and are vague at best in the tablet market.
They would need to have a real think about their ability to force anybody to do anything.
(Incidentally, MS have said there won't be a Windows 11.)

unforeseen

There never was a plan for a Windows 11.

Windows 10 is a rolling update the same as Office 365.

That is why some updates are complete OS images

esuhl

henm2 wrote: »

Going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 10 is a far steeper learning curve than that needed when figuring how to use Linux Mint. Linux Mint is quite an easy system to use. The days of having to use command lines etc are long gone.

If you're going to use GNU/Linux without bothering to use a terminal shell, then why would you go to the effort of using Linux at all? Surely Windows would be a much better choice for people who aren't technically-minded?

If you want a proper operating system that gives a technically-competent user control, get a decent distribution of GNU/Linux. If you never want to type a text command and want the computer to be easy-to-use, use Windows.

It seems silly to choose GNU/Linux just for bragging rights.

Fightsback

poppellerant wrote: »

You forgot to mention that everybody is familiar with Windows and a lot of things run from it. It also comes with a far steeper learning curve than Windows and higher support costs.

I beg to differ, considerable savings using Linux can be achieved and is no more difficult to manage 72,000 Linux workstations than windows workstations:

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/french-gendarmerie-open-source-desktop-lowers-tco-40

Sometimes you have to resort to the CLI in a Linux DE however on occasions in Windows you have to resort to Powershell or hacking the registry. MS have generally made Windows more idiot proof however there always is the idiot you haven't accounted for.

poppellerant

henm2 wrote: »

Going from Windows 7 to Windows 8 or 10 is a far steeper learning curve than that needed when figuring how to use Linux Mint. Linux Mint is quite an easy system to use. The days of having to use command lines etc are long gone.

There is literally no learning curve when moving from Windows 7 to 10 - the Start menu is back, although changed. But the concept is the same - if you can't find what you want, search for it instead. I admit they are trying to replace Control Panel with a settings app, but Control Panel is still there for users comfortable changing advanced settings.

Everything else is pretty much the same if, like me, you don't use an MS account and remove all the apps.

henm2 wrote: »

Also support costs? There are none. Plenty of free advice available on the many forums.

Fightsback wrote: »

I beg to differ, considerable savings using Linux can be achieved and is no more difficult to manage 72,000 Linux workstations than windows workstations:

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/community/osor/news/french-gendarmerie-open-source-desktop-lowers-tco-40

Sometimes you have to resort to the CLI in a Linux DE however on occasions in Windows you have to resort to Powershell or hacking the registry. MS have generally made Windows more idiot proof however there always is the idiot you haven't accounted for.

The real cost of switching to Linux

esuhl

Fightsback wrote: »

Sometimes you have to resort to the CLI in a Linux DE...

"Resort"?! Now that's not the right attitude!

Typing commands that do exactly what you want instead of faffing around with a hundred clicks in a GUI is one of the joys of GNU/Linux, isn't it?!

Fightsback wrote: »

MS have generally made Windows more idiot proof however there always is the idiot you haven't accounted for.

Totally -- Windows is a pretty good product in terms of being "idiot proof". Linux is more powerful, and in many cases easier/quicker/simpler to use than Windows if you know what you're doing. But you can break stuff more easily if you don't.

I_have_spoken

Windows 10 still free, even the Anniversary Update, if you're crass :beer:

AndyPix

treboeth wrote: »

Have I missed he opportunity to get W10 installed for free :eek::(

No


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/01/windows_10_anniversary_update_still_free/

I_Love_comps

I was offered Windows 10 for free. Which I would have used on my laptop which 5 years old.
I decided not to upgrade , as so many other people where saying that it slowed there laptop down and mine is slow enough (probably due it's age), or they had other problems.

I will probably have to change this laptop soon because of age anyway have to get used to all of those funny boxes you click onto like on the microsoft phone I own.