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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,497 Forumite
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    I think it's answered. Of course firms can use a debt collector and it's usually mentioned on the signs and the PCNs.
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  • System
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    If you need a definite answer for a particular PPC then let us know why you need the information. The answer varies by PPC anyway.
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  • beamerguy
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    I think it's answered. Of course firms can use a debt collector and it's usually mentioned on the signs and the PCNs.

    We know they use debt collectors hence the ever increasing threads here, that was not the question

    Does anyone know once £2.50 has been paid to the DVLA for data, what if any restrictions are given as to how they can use the data apart from contacting the keeper
  • System
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    Does anyone know once £2.50 has been paid to the DVLA for data, what if any restrictions are given as to how they can use the data apart from contacting the keeper

    Yes. The "original" purpose and no other. It's in the DPA.

    But you are still not giving any clue to why you are asking and why you are skirting telling us why.
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  • beamerguy
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    edited 18 July 2016 at 3:57PM
    Yes. The "original" purpose and no other.

    And that's what I expected .... "no other"

    I am not skirting your question, I would like to know and I guess all those receiving letters from debt collectors would like to know as well

    In part you have answered the question
  • arthurx1234
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    edited 18 July 2016 at 4:07PM
    I had a "set to" with the DVLA some time ago, basically they are quite happy to get the extra £2.50 per request income
    Below is pasted a reply i got back from a Brian Dodge !!!! A dvla Compliance Practicioner
    !!!!!!?

    I do see the point of when is a debt not a debt, but we are banging our heads against a brick wall, unfortunately

    "[FONT=&quot]DVLA takes very seriously its duty under the Data Protection Act to protect the privacy of the motorists whose details it holds on its record. Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002 allows the DVLA to release information from the vehicle register to the police, to local authorities for purposes associated with the investigation of an offence or decriminalised parking contravention, and to anyone who can demonstrate ‘reasonable cause’ to have it, including private car parking companies.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]Private parking schemes operate on the basis of contract law. Motorists use the facility subject to the terms and conditions set out on signage displayed in the car park. The need to contact individuals who may have failed to comply with these conditions is, in most circumstances, considered to be a reasonable cause. Data is provided by the DVLA to enable landowners or the agents to pursue their legal rights and to address disputes between parties.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]While seeking to ensure that vehicle keeper data is released only in appropriate circumstances, it is not a matter for the Agency to decide on the merits of individual cases. Disputes over the circumstances leading to an incident are matters for the parties concerned.[/FONT]

    [FONT=&quot]It is also worth noting that the DVLA does not have the statutory power regulate the practices of private car parking companies. The Agency accredits trade associations to ensure that those who request information are legitimate companies that operate within an enforceable Code of Practice. Accredited Trade Associations (ATAs) have responsibility for ensuring compliance with their code of practice so when we receive an enquiry or complaint relating to the practices of a private parking company, we pass it to the relevant ATA to investigate and inform us of the outcome. In this case, I note that both the British Parking Association(BPA) and Independent Parking Committee (IPC) have received correspondence directly in relation to various aspects of your complaint."

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  • pappa_golf
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    edited 18 July 2016 at 4:06PM
    debt collectors come in many flavours , mainly sour and very sour


    scenario 1:


    you owe virgin media for services , you have used the phone , and you have a full written contract , virgin are a recognised credit provider and are regulated.


    scenario 2:


    scum parking send you a speculative invoice , for their product , you had no chance to view the contract , and they are escalating the charges , whilst not being a member of a regulated credit assoc


    they pass this on to scum and co debt collection


    your reply:


    I disagree with the figures quoted by your principal , please refer it back to them.
    please remove my personal details from your records, as required under the data protection requirements. and will expect no further correspondence from them other than to confirm your details have been removed. Anything else may be considered as harassment and further action may be taken, as per Ferguson v British Gas *




    apply 1st class stamp and obtain proof of postage




    *hurriedly copied and pasted from a similar thread on another forum
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
  • beamerguy
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    debt collectors come in many flavours , mainly sour and very sour

    scenario 1:

    you owe virgin media for services , you have used the phone , and you have a full written contract , virgin are a recognised credit provider and are regulated.

    scenario 2:

    scum parking send you a speculative invoice , for their product , you had no chance to view the contract , and they are escalating the charges , whilst not being a member of a regulated credit assoc

    they pass this on to scum and co debt collection


    your reply:


    I disagree with the figures quoted by your principal , please refer it back to them.
    please remove my personal details from your records, as required under the data protection requirements. and will expect no further correspondence from them other than to confirm your details have been removed. Anything else may be considered as harassment and further action may be taken, as per Ferguson v British Gas *


    apply 1st class stamp and obtain proof of postage

    *hurriedly copied and pasted from a similar thread on another forum

    Thank you pappa, so do any PPC's belong to a regulated credit assoc
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    ANPR ltd




    (stop laughing at the back)


    probably crapita as well , however they are involved with credit (ie tv licence etc)


    http://www.csa-uk.com/consumer/our-members/
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
  • beamerguy
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    ANPR ltd

    (stop laughing at the back)

    probably crapita as well , however they are involved with credit (ie tv licence etc)

    http://www.csa-uk.com/consumer/our-members/

    OK, so very much in the minority then
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