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Who would be a millenial?

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  • MobileSaver
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    kabayiri wrote: »
    The standard working day ... was either 10.5 hours or 11.5 hours.

    Should that be the new reference point?

    Sounds like a good plan if millennials want to earn more money. Would you disagree?
    stator wrote: »
    Exactly. The point was how much tax the very rich older people pay vs how much tax the young poor pay.

    What most people don't realise is that many of the very rich pay more tax in a single year than the vast majority of people on this forum will pay in their entire working life.
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  • ukcarper
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    stator wrote: »
    Exactly. The point was how much tax the very rich older people pay vs how much tax the young poor pay. In the old days the gap was larger. A 9pp higher tax rate is huge compared to the other differences in tax rates ie rich vs poor
    Your earnings have to be fairly high to pay that 9p and going to university is a choice. If you are going to have 50% of population going to university compared to 5% someone has to pay for it, especially when a large number of those degrees are pointless.
  • stator
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    Sounds like a good plan if millennials want to earn more money. Would you disagree?



    What most people don't realise is that many of the very rich pay more tax in a single year than the vast majority of people on this forum will pay in their entire working life.
    The very rich pay no tax at all as they are all non-dom.
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  • stator
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    ukcarper wrote: »
    Your earnings have to be fairly high to pay that 9p and going to university is a choice. If you are going to have 50% of population going to university compared to 5% someone has to pay for it, especially when a large number of those degrees are pointless.
    You shouldn't believe everything in the tabloids. Most degress are still useful, that's why many jobs require them. And the threshold for repayment isn't high, it's very low.
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  • PasturesNew
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    cells wrote: »
    ... lots and lots and lots of people get huge sums. ...

    If everybody in my family all died and had miraculously changed their wills so I got the lot .... it'd be £400k or so ...

    Unfortunately, when I look at them and compare them to me .... I really believe I'll be the first to go!
  • CLAPTON
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    stator wrote: »
    The very rich pay no tax at all as they are all non-dom.

    how many very rich are there in the UK?
    how many non-doms in the UK
  • Generali
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    edited 19 July 2016 at 10:47AM
    stator wrote: »
    The very rich pay no tax at all as they are all non-dom.

    This is just a myth.

    If you're in the bottom half of earners you are very unlikely to be a net taxpayer once the Government services you consume are taken into account.

    If you are in the top 10% then you pay something like a third or two fifths of tax plus are likely to take out less due to private health coverage and not using state education or childcare facilities.

    The top 10%, most of whom live in London and the South East, basically keep the Socialist show on the road. If you want a welfare state then you need rich (mostly) southerners to pay for it. You can pretend all you like that the rich don't pay their way but it's rubbish, silly sixth-form politics.

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  • TrickyTree83
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    Generali wrote: »
    This is just a myth.

    If you're in the bottom half of earners you are very unlikely to be a net taxpayer once the Government services you consume are taken into account.

    If you are in the top 10% then you pay something like a third or two fifths of tax plus are likely to take out less due to private health coverage and not using state education or childcare facilities.

    The top 10%, most of whom live in London and the South East, basically keep the Socialist show on the road. If you want a welfare state then you need rich (mostly) southerners to pay for it. You can pretend all you like that the rich don't pay their way but it's rubbish, silly sixth-form politics.

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    Hooray! Sense on the forums prevails.
  • ukcarper
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    stator wrote: »
    You shouldn't believe everything in the tabloids. Most degress are still useful, that's why many jobs require them. And the threshold for repayment isn't high, it's very low.
    I know plenty of people who have done degrees that are not that usefull.
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    Generali wrote: »
    This is just a myth.

    If you're in the bottom half of earners you are very unlikely to be a net taxpayer once the Government services you consume are taken into account.

    If you are in the top 10% then you pay something like a third or two fifths of tax plus are likely to take out less due to private health coverage and not using state education or childcare facilities.

    The top 10%, most of whom live in London and the South East, basically keep the Socialist show on the road. If you want a welfare state then you need rich (mostly) southerners to pay for it. You can pretend all you like that the rich don't pay their way but it's rubbish, silly sixth-form politics.
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    How many high earners would there be without low earners?
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