We're aware that some users are experiencing technical issues which the team are working to resolve. See the Community Noticeboard for more info. Thank you for your patience.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Return address is China!?

Options
24

Comments

  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If they are based inside Intu Derby I bet there one of those pop-up (slightly dodgy) concession stalls you see on the thoroughfares.

    Hopefully we might have someone from Derby here who could confirm if they actually exist.

    As far as returns are concerned if they are UK based (but in reality it looks like they're not) then you will be complying with your obligations by returning the item to their UK address, if they want it to go to China then they will have to pay the postage.
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    photome wrote: »
    I did look at that as the phone number comes up as the Lipsy phone number, but the address for Lipsy is slightly different on intu website


    OP have you called the number or only been in touch via email

    you could call intu westfield customer service and ask if the shop exists
    Looks more and more like a Chinese scam site, it wouldn't surprise me if the dress itself was fake as well.

    Surely the name alone of the site should have put up some red flags to the OP's partner. I suppose common sense goes out of the window when there are "bargains" to be had.
  • robatwork
    robatwork Posts: 7,265 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Did you really look at this website and think it was genuine or just see the price? This is a huge scam site and not even a good one

    2 mins has shown me this:

    Contact Us Page

    Place for nice title

    You can change visual appearance of almost every element of this Magento theme. You can set your favorite colors and generate css file from the admin.

    Adress: Unit SU218 North Mall,Westfield Shopping Centre,intu Derby,Derby DE1 2PQUnit SU218 North Mall,Westfield Shopping Centre,intu Derby,Derby DE1 2PQ
    Phone: +44 1332 228140

    Fax: +44 1332 228140

    Email: After-sale@yyvips.com


    EMail looks ridiculous. Place for a nice title? Generate css from the admin?

    Googling the domain:

    KydOBHF.png

    Medcity Hovercraft?
    Even google thinks it's hacked.

    Anyway this may help you - looks like it's registered in the US.

    Original Query: Haltonhillsradio.com

    Contact Information
    Registrant Contact
    Name: Albert Lim
    Organization:
    Mailing Address: Paigadju75442@gmail.com, California California 91710 US
    Phone: +415.8001050
    Ext:
    Fax: +415.8001050
    Fax Ext:
    Email: justdoitpls@foxmail.com
  • bris
    bris Posts: 10,548 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    neilmcl wrote: »
    Looks more and more like a Chinese scam site, it wouldn't surprise me if the dress itself was fake as well.
    .
    Of course it's a fake, do you really think designers supply dodgy Chinese sellers with their top label brands? Designer label brands are strictly controlled through agencies, the criteria needed to get an account is huge.
  • jonny30
    jonny30 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Hi All,

    Yes, big mistake on our part. There is no mention of it having been a Chinese seller up front however and my partner took it in good faith to be authentic and thought there would be some cover if things went wrong.
    Clearly there are a lot of areas of suspicion granted.

    In terms of the price, the dress was about 50 pounds less than you would expect. It turned out to be a replica dress (poor replica at that).

    All said and done we are still 100 pounds out of pocket for a company that on quick glance appeared authentic. If there is anyway to get the money back I'd like to pursue. From posts above it's clear that return postage cannot be covered.

    I have tried calling the phone number....it doesn't work. I will try to verfy with the shopping centre as to whether the business is operating there. Comms to date suggest that they are in the UK but coordinate the supply and delivery's direct from China for website items so hopefully if that's the case, we have a chance.

    I'll post back once I have more details.

    Thanks for digging into it further.
  • photome
    photome Posts: 16,657 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Bake Off Boss!
    jonny30 wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Yes, big mistake on our part. There is no mention of it having been a Chinese seller up front however and my partner took it in good faith to be authentic and thought there would be some cover if things went wrong.
    Clearly there are a lot of areas of suspicion granted.

    In terms of the price, the dress was about 50 pounds less than you would expect. It turned out to be a replica dress (poor replica at that).

    All said and done we are still 100 pounds out of pocket for a company that on quick glance appeared authentic. If there is anyway to get the money back I'd like to pursue. From posts above it's clear that return postage cannot be covered.

    I have tried calling the phone number....it doesn't work. I will try to verfy with the shopping centre as to whether the business is operating there. Comms to date suggest that they are in the UK but coordinate the supply and delivery's direct from China for website items so hopefully if that's the case, we have a chance.

    I'll post back once I have more details.



    Thanks for digging into it further.

    By replica I assume you mean fake.

    Didn't the name of the site ring any bells

    Not sure what to do next
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 10 July 2016 at 1:48PM
    jonny30 wrote: »
    Comms to date suggest that they are in the UK but coordinate the supply and delivery's direct from China for website items so hopefully if that's the case, we have a chance.

    I'll post back once I have more details.

    Thanks for digging into it further.
    What gives you that impression. I would suggest that they are 100% a Chinese company/scam operation. I think you'll have to kiss your £100 goodbye and put this down to experience.
  • I have to be honest and say that at first, very, very quick glance that site was never authentic. Designers such as the ones listed are very particular about who they supply their products to to protect their reputation. I am afraid it looks entirely a scam Chinese site to me.
  • esuhl
    esuhl Posts: 9,409 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    jonny30 wrote: »
    I have tried calling the phone number....it doesn't work. I will try to verfy with the shopping centre as to whether the business is operating there. Comms to date suggest that they are in the UK but coordinate the supply and delivery's direct from China for website items so hopefully if that's the case, we have a chance.

    It looks very much like a Chinese scam site. I doubt they have any real presence in the UK.

    From the domain records of the email address they're using, it's registered to:
    Registrant Name: li huang
    Registrant Organization: huangli
    Registrant Street: shandongsh
    Registrant City: anqiushi
    Registrant State/Province: Shandong
    Registrant Postal Code: 262100
    Registrant Country: CN
    Registrant Phone: +86.5364232545
    Registrant Phone Ext:
    Registrant Fax: +86.5364232545

    In theory, you could travel to China and try to prosecute them under Chinese law (and that's assuming that you can even track them down). But, in reality, the only option is probably to get your debit card company to take responsibility for allowing a scammer to use their services. Have a look at your card issuers terms and conditions.

    Maybe worth reporting them to Trading Standards, but I'm not sure if they would be able to do anything.
  • unholyangel
    unholyangel Posts: 16,866 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    jonny30 wrote: »
    Hi All,

    Yes, big mistake on our part. There is no mention of it having been a Chinese seller up front however and my partner took it in good faith to be authentic and thought there would be some cover if things went wrong.
    Clearly there are a lot of areas of suspicion granted.

    In terms of the price, the dress was about 50 pounds less than you would expect. It turned out to be a replica dress (poor replica at that).

    All said and done we are still 100 pounds out of pocket for a company that on quick glance appeared authentic. If there is anyway to get the money back I'd like to pursue. From posts above it's clear that return postage cannot be covered.

    I have tried calling the phone number....it doesn't work. I will try to verfy with the shopping centre as to whether the business is operating there. Comms to date suggest that they are in the UK but coordinate the supply and delivery's direct from China for website items so hopefully if that's the case, we have a chance.

    I'll post back once I have more details.

    Thanks for digging into it further.

    If this was a UK company, you'd have the option of returning to a UK address given our laws. However given they dont seem to have a physical presence here, enforcing UK law against them might be tricky.

    However you have nothing to lose by attempting a chargeback with your bank. You can also appeal to the financial ombudsman if the bank reject your claim.
    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.8K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 598.6K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.8K Life & Family
  • 257.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.