THE Prepping thread - a new beginning :)

southantrim3

So the first interest rate rise and what will that do for tracker mortgages and savings etc? And, will there be more in near future, mid term, long term?

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I am eternally grateful to have been the older child, to have been left to get on with it, to look after my six siblings and to be so self-sufficient. At 18 I turned down an offer at med school much to my parents disgust, guys hospital. I was working in a pharmacy during holidays and weekends and had seem enough there for me to appreciate that I did not want anything to do with chemical interventions and the bribery of the big pharma companies

I still went along with the likes of antibiotics for pregnancy pyelonephritis and ear ache etc, then at age 28, that was the absolute turning point for me and from thence on, I learned to re-attune to my body and I listened to it and adjusted my lifestyle, what I grew and ate and rested accordingly. Just a couple of years before then, I managed to get my husband off all medical drugs for ulcerative colitis. So I have been drug free since then, I use some herbals and other methods eg for horrible sciatica and backache from heavy lifting, I use an inverter, gingerly at first and a small machine called a backlife. My sciatica never lasts long. I started a bad cold exactly 7 days ago, I could feel that my chest was starting to be affected, I used saline washes and a humidifier at night for three hours, just twice and an extra pillow No cough and cold is about gone. Pills, oh yes I did take paracetamol, twice.

I do have herbals for pain but pain cycles need to be broken and paracetamol does that quickly eg when my joints ache after strenuous work. My neighbour/friend was a gp until last year, suddenly she is permanently ill and is questioning the role of statins amongst others

fuddle, you hang in there, you are exactly on the right track to becoming as well as you can be

moneyistooshorttomention

Fuddle

It does sound like you've learnt from experience exactly why I am so suspicious of any diagnosis/treatment I get from the NHS and, these days, I make my own decisions.

Personally - these days I work on the basis of making my own diagnosis about any health problem I have (yep...I know one can get it wrong - but my personal experience to date is that I've been correct:cool:). Then, if it's persistent, I head off to the doctors to get a "second opinion" from them. There have been times where only one of us has been correct - and it wasn't the doctor...

So far that way of thinking has served me well personally. After all - who is the person that is going to care most about my welfare and will not change decisions they've made because of budgetary considerations? Obviously me....

Karmacat

Fuddle, you poor thing, thats utterly horrendous - and I agree with your assessment, actually, that the NHS is brilliant for emergencies - if I have a broken leg, give me the NHS every time, but with the state of my health - under the weather, no energy, feeling sick, feeling awful, but nothing that shows on their test results, there's nothing

I'm finally starting to feel better after the trials of the last two years, and ready to continue prepping my return to health by getting into probiotics - my SiL tried to help me with cultures, but I wasn't ready, didn't have the focus or the energy, and I let them die :(:o:(:o:(

Got a kilner jar now, a big one for continuous fermentation, so I'm going for water kefir first, and then we'll see after that.

Other types of prepping: my builder has agreed a start date! Repointing a wall, and renovating a brick shed attached to the house, are the two really prepping-y things, I'm really chuffed.

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Nargleblast

Totally agree with the consensus of opinion that we should all take an interest in how our bodies work and strive to optimise our health with our diet and lifestyles. Working in the NHS I could go on until kingdom come about the idiots who run to the doctor or roll up at A & E for the daftest reasons, things which could be resolved at home with a bit of common sense and preparedness. The same idiots who abuse their bodies with the wrong foods, nicotine, too much alcohol, illegal substances, then wonder why their body systems break down. Then they moan for ages on Twitface or Moansnet or whatever about the useless NHS. If only they spent a fraction of that time on the Internet in researching human anatomy and physiology, healthy diets, healthy lifestyles etc.

Fuddle you have had a mixed experience over the last year or so, ranging from brilliant to totally incompetent. You are definitely doing the right thing in starting to listen to your body and think about your diet, same as kittie, Greyqueen and money. The NHS is not a bottomless pit of money and giving, with all the increasing demands on services there will, I foresee, come a time when services, treatments and interventions will be rationed, and human beings will have to start taking responsibility for their own health and well-being.

I think, as noble the principle of free healthcare at the point of use is, it had its downside from the late 1940s onwards of making people dependent on it to the point, in some cases, where some people have lost the ability to think for themselves and be proactive where health is concerned.

Sorry for hogging the soapbox, would anyone else like a turn?

fuddle

kittie and money I have been stalking your food choices on the cooking for one thread lately because I know you both have a weatlh of information and money I know I can learn something re: vegan and although it's not my thing I can see that there's some handy tips for learning how to be dairy free. I do think my gut needs a fix. I've had 15 doses of antibiotics in as many months obviously sometimes 3 different ones together. My stomach is shot.

Nargle and karmacat I firmly believe that anyone that enters the medical profession within the NHS is amazing. I don't think any individual wants to do a bad job at all and my experience really has been wonderful while sending me into a very dark place mentally. It's a fast paced environment with constant demands. My experience has made me not trust but maybe that is a good thing. Maybe I will now live my life not relying on the NHS popping pills to enable me to abuse my body without recourse.

Nargle, I'll fight you for the soapbox!

GreyQueen

I wouldn't be alive without modern medicine and am deeply appreciative of the NHS. I also feel a tad embarrassed that I have taken up so much resource through having some complicated metabolic disorders, I shudder think how much the MRI scanning cost...........

I very rarely see my GP because, despite having two chronic illnesses, one of which is life-threatening, I am very seldom actually ill in any way which is fixable by drug therapies. I was even told off by a previous GP for not visiting often enough! Dunno what he expected, that I fabricate an illness to keep them busy........:rotfl:

I have chosen for the past several months to see a complementary health practiticioner for Bowen Technique and general advice. I pay for this out of a small inheritance from my late Nan, and consider it money well spent.

I was recommended to try goats' milk instead of cows' milk, Fuddle, as it's easier on the digestion for some of us. I have to say that I approached this with a leery gaze (my guy recommended the brand you'll find in Tosspots in the chilled cabinet, widely available, name escapes me atm) and it doesn't taste weird.

I don't think it's any secret that the major advances in healtcare have been due to improved sanitation and better living conditions, and that the major challenges for the NHS can be put down to stupidity; bad habits, bad diet etc. It's such a shame that folks can't exercise a bit of restraint and commonsense, you wouldn't credit the amount of times ambulances attend The Towers to go to the junkies and the alkies, such a waste, I marvel that they have the patience to continue in that line of work.

moneyistooshorttomention

I've also gathered that the reason we are health-ier than the Victorians, for instance, is largely down to things like improved sanitation/etc. It must also help a lot that women aren't having to go through multiple childbirths - sheer courtesy of the (lack of) any way to prevent it in those times. Air pollution is, I think, one of big societal problems of our time too and was one of the (non-financial) reasons I moved here before it started to come up as being such a problem in the media recently.

I also think the work some people have to do to "earn their crust" can also affect their health badly and that is much harder to deal with. But things like shift work/unsafe work conditions generally also take a toll on some peoples health. I admit to shuddering at the thought of a job where one has to stand around for hours at a time even - thoughts of varicose veins coming instantly to mind.

There's a variety of factors affecting our health - and basically what we can do (and pretty much all we can do) is take control of those things that are under our control - eg the way we eat and I am definitely becoming a firm believer in also trying to have a bit of "regularity" in when we eat/when we sleep/etc - so our "body clocks" know what to expect from us and can "look after us" as best they can.

maryb

I remember watching Jacob Brunowski's TV series The Ascent of Man back in the 70s/early 80s and he made the point that cheap, easily washed cotton underwear and bedding, (though easy is relative!!) cheap coal for the hot water, and iron bedsteads which could be kept clean, massively improved the health of the Victorian urban working class,although they were still at risk from epidemic diseases until public health got going and improved sanitation outside the home

Nargleblast

Fuddle sweetie, the soapbox is the size of infinity and can accommodate all of us.

Greyqueen my massage therapist tried the Bowen technique on me a few times but it did nothing for me. Probably due to the huge benign tumour on my appendix, which when removed led to my back problems resolving. I do know however there are cases of people seeing marvellous results from Bowen.

Mary our friend Flo Nightingale was the first nurse researcher. She proved that clean bed linen can work wonders in healing the sick. Not rocket science, is it, but a case for looking after the basics, keep clean, get enough rest, eat properly yada yada.....

Money right about the importance of sleep and body clocks, I did my dissertation on the importance of sleep, very interesting subject.
This is a fascinating discussion we are having, isn’t it?