THE Prepping thread - a new beginning :)

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Yet another 'vehicle being driven into innocent people' in New York last night, hired truck and immigrant driver who had been in the USA for 7 years, the news here has just said he was an Uber driver who could have done this at any point over the past 7 years??? at least this time the driver is injured and not dead so hopefully there can be some answers to the questions that need asking as to how and why but I can't see any way to stop this type of event from happening after all you can't ban vehicles from being driven can you? Pure evil though and another 8 people dead 'for the cause'!

Karmacat

I had a bit of a sleepless night last night, and while flicking through another forum on the Silk browser on my kindle I found the most staggering site: a radio ham who also has a huge library of PDF documents about all sorts of things (archery for one, GQ!). He's currently uploading Scientific American from the 1970s, and most of the stuff is *much* earlier than that, like 19th century or very early 20th, except for the First Aid section - he lists there a book for midwives dated 2011.
http://www.survivorlibrary.com/

GreyQueen

Nargleblast wrote: »

How can you live with yourself, Greyqueen, for being the one who shot Rudolph?

Hell, my kill tally over the years has even included fluffy wuffy Easter chicks (the little bottlebrush ones from the £ store, I hasten to add). Plys baubles and balloons.

Yestereve, I slew a witch, a zombie, frankinstein's monster, a skeleton (blasted both the legs offa that) and two of those Mr Keeepling halloween fondant fancies.

The latter I ate. Really shouldn't have done, but my will is weak......

Nargleblast

Well, if you see a big fat bloke dressed in a fur-trimmed red suit and a long white beard, control yourself - you don’t want to be known as the one who killed Santa!

thriftwizard

Well, I’m gobsmacked by just how relevant to my life this thread is, yet again! I’ve just brought my poor old Mum back from hospital again, after an episode that appears to have been just about entirely caused by over-use/inappropriate use of antibiotics, which have now destroyed all of her gut flora except the exceptionally-unlovely C. Difficile. But down here in the wilds (25 miles further West, Fuddle) mention of trying to rebuild Mum’s gut flora with probiotics has been met by puzzled frowns & deep suspicion.

I’m a huge believer and have been merrily fermenting away for years now, making ginger beer, milk & water kefir, & kombucha tea regularly as well as kimchi and sourdough & I haven’t had so much as a cold for ages. I got into it (apart from the ginger beer) as DD2 has an autism-related condition and has felt very much less anxious since devising a diet for herself that includes a lot of naturally-fermented foods & drinks. But my mother’s still at the stage where she struggles with the idea of “live” yogurt, because it contains bacteria, and bacteria are by definition BAD! And most of the hospital staff seem to agree, to my surprise & slight horror, so this is clearly going to be an uphill struggle. But I’ll probably get away with miso soup, because she likes it & doesn’t know there are any probiotics involved. But absolutely no “nasty, medicinal” drinks... not that she’s ever tasted them!

Bearing in mind that many of my family are of a somewhat theological bent, there’s a little imp sitting on my shoulder pointing out that both bread (traditionally made) and wine are, in fact, ferments...

jk0

I feel your pain Angie.

My favourite aunt who is now 86, has a non specific blood disorder that the quacks are having trouble treating. However, she is in thrall to the medical profession & is taking eight different tablets a day for various ailments.

I said to my mother last week, that I thought she should pack up taking everything for a month, and then she might feel better. Mum agreed.

Hope your mum is better soon.

moneyistooshorttomention

Gobsmacked at how "behind the times" these hospital staff appear to be then:eek:

Crikey - it must have been 30 or so years ago that I was wondering how come I kept getting attacks of thrush and traced it back down myself to the antibiotics I'd been given a couple of times. Followed by having loads of live yogurt. Followed by pointing this out to the doctor I had at the time and requesting patient information leaflets on this were there in the waiting room for people to see - so that they knew they needed to take appropriate precautions (eg having live yogurt if they took a course of antibiotics). I seem to recall that he did indeed do this after my request.

Though he did use to amuse me by the fact that he obviously didnt look after his own health much (judging by the size of him) - but he was the best doctor I've had to date - as he did listen to his patients and care about them and I found I could discuss things with him and would get listened to seriously.

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No one is 'forced' to use the NHS, some people feel that it doesn't deliver what they think it ought to as instantly as it ought to for them, some feel that it doesn't give the 'cutting edge' treatments/drugs that are known about and available at a price, some go for diagnosis with made up minds about what needs to be done and don't understand that sometimes those things just aren't an option because it's not appropriate or affordable. There is choice and that is NOT to go to the GP! Self diagnosis I think is dangerous and using the internet can convince of many possible ailments and many possible treatments which might fix what's wrong BUT it would delay treatment that might save life.

The NHS is far from perfect, it's too big and our Minister for Health is I believe not from a medical background but was a journalist before politics. I think unless there is medical understanding the biggest thing affecting treatments and availability is how much money is available to any NHS trust and that unfortunately doesn't let the hard working and dedicated Medics do as thorough a job as might be done if cash flow was limitless. I thank my lucky stars every day that there IS still an NHS no matter how flawed , without it most of us who do take regular medication would be in much less good health and probably on borrowed time!

There is always the option of Private Health Care where you can demand and pay for whatever you think is necessary, way out of our reach however and I for one am grateful for what we do have, not resentful that it can't make me 21 again!

thriftwizard

Mum is old enough to remember the time before the NHS, and is a huge fan of it. And she owes her continued life to it, thanks to prompt diagnosis and insertion of a pacemaker a few years ago. But her GPs are horribly overloaded now, thanks to the closure of more than one of the village surgeries (no-one will take on a small practice now, as they don’t attract funding) so their instant reaction to an elderly patient saying they don’t feel well is to send antibiotics, often within an hour of the initial phone call. I don’t think Mum has actually seen a GP for over a year, and that was a locum, not very much younger than Mum himself. But the practice nurse is just wonderful; comes to visit at least once a month, very caring & gentle, and really knows her patients.

The hospital have said that Mum is NOT to be given antibiotics again, without actually seeing a doctor and proper tests done. Let’s hope it can be done... and that TPTB notice that the small rural surgeries may not be “efficient” but they were performing a vital function all the same.

fuddle

I've said it many a time that I'm grateful for the NHS and fixing me in dire situations but when you're caught up in a year long situation that sees repeated illness due to incomplete care the first time round, you're told you have heart failure and then you're told it's likely a misdiagnosis due to that fluid coming from a pnemonia from over a year ago not the heart, and in the middle of that being diagnosed with pernicious anemia only to find that the consultant had made a mistake by looking at the wrong blood test result. To have repeated boughts of thrush that probiotics can't fix because of all the repeated antibiotic uses so I have no choice but to quick fix with medications. To have repeated acid reflux that is finally diagnosed as being GORD without so much as a test or further examination but take an acid suppressant even though I have an autoimmune issue that could signal i don't have enough stomach acid. Then after all the pnemonia episodes I have to wait 9 months until the pharmaceutical companies and surgeries feel it more profitable to get stocks in of the pneumonia jab. I am jaded. I was healthy but I'm no longer healthy. As far as I am concerned The NHS is excellent for emergencies but I'm afraid I can't feel that we have a health care system.

That is why I am taking responsibility for my part in it, removing poor food choices and take control with education and find out how my body reacts to different situations.

If that very first A&E doctor listened to me when I said I can hear crackles when I breathe, didn't just go with 'your chest is clear' sending me away without a chest x-ray. I may not have ended up going back 10 days later with 6cm depth of fluid on my lung and 2/3s of above might not have ever happened. Yes, I'm angry. That won't ever happen again because I know a great deal about pneumonia and effusion. I know what 'stuff feels like' and I know what to say. The same will be true about autoimmunity and gut issues. I will lead the medical profession if I get to the point where I feel I need to tap into the health care that I have paid for for 10 years and DH has paid for since he left school. It's our service and in our household we know that I have cost the NHS thousands recently... or maybe, just maybe the NHS has cost itself that because of poor treatment in August 2016??