THE Prepping thread - a new beginning :)

fuddle

It's ok karmacat. By raw I just meant not messed with or in sauce like kidney, borlotti, haricot, cannelinni, pinto all tinned in water. Thanks for checking though. Loads of info for me to digest (pun ) and research. Thanks!

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FUDDLE I have two very useful little books on my shelf they are

1) Diet for a Small Planet by Frances Moore Lappe published 1971
2) Recipes for a Small Planet by Ellen Buchman Ewald published 1973

The thinking behind both (they are linked) is 'how to enjoy a rich protein harvest by getting off the top of the food chain' and 'high protein meatless cooking'. In the first book is a very useful chart of complimentary proteins made from adding two groups of food together i.e grains and legumes to make a 'whole' protein equal or better than that given in meat, grains and milk products, seeds and legumes, grains and seeds, seeds and milk products, milk products and legumes. The first book has the theory behind the ideas in and some recipes, the second is mainly recipes utilising the pairings above. They are American publications and I've just checked and are available on Amazon for not very much money. They might be useful tools in a healthy eating life change, perhaps worth considering as an investment.

fuddle

The acid reflux complicates things because I think grains exacerbate and actually there's thinking behind legumes causing too much pressure on the gut as well. But I think the amount of info I can get from those books is worth the investment. I want to get off the pills as soon as I safely can but if I am breathing stomach acid into my lungs I'm going to be very nervy about relying on diet alone. The low salt thing is because I had a scare that still hasn't been confirmed as being a scare until I have another echocardiogram. That scare was enough to make me sort myself out and if it turns out I do have a problem ticker I will already be in the throws of change to help myself.

Basically I have cupboards full of food that, one way or another, are contributing to my ill health. I need to learn and fast.

At the minute I eat just enough as to not overload my stomach. No added salt or saturated fat. Dairy is minimal but I'm not at all bothered. I have 3 stone to lose and no longer crave sugar, fats or salt. I just want to be healthy.

mardatha

Fuddle the best thing you could do is eat tiny meals. I have awful heartburn and sometimes it goes into orbit for no reason that I can see and other times I can eat anything I like. I'm also low on sodium and if I don't keep taking on salt then I can get really dizzy and pass out. So we had to go from a low salt house to a high salt one.
It was a week after I hit Costco and got stashed to the rafters, that the RV was found to be diabetic. We had to give away all the carbs and sugar..

maryb

I developed horrendous heartburn after just one dose of bisphosphonates for my osteoporosis so I refused to take any more. It took a couple of months to settle and still flares up if I'm not careful. I could go for an infusion instead which apparently doesn't give you heartburn but having read the side effects leaflet I'm still not keen. Had another bone scan this week so if it shows I'm still losing bone density I'll have to reconsider but I've had so many problems with my eyesight I don't want to take something that says it can cause uveitis or scleritis.

I read something about heartburn recently which seems completely counter-intuitive. Apparently you get it when you have too LITTLE stomach acid rather than too much. If there isn't enough to digest your food apparently it churns around violently trying to coat all your food and that's when it splashes up into your gullet.

Hmmmm Not sure about that. Though I have to say eating smaller portions does seem to help and it has to be helpful for my waistline (which, let's face it, needs all the help it can get!)

moneyistooshorttomention

I'd had problems with heartburn/acid reflux for a while and, to me, it's worth tracking down the culprits. In my case - I've found the things that aren't a good idea for me personally are that I've had to cut back noticeably on alcohol (so no more than a modest amount no more than, say, twice a week) is safe. More than that is risky.

Also I'm a lark and not an owl by nature - and therefore my evening meal has to be no later than what I regard as "dinner time" - ie around 6pm, as otherwise the gap between dinnertime and bedtime isn't long enough for me.

I have had to learn to be rather "firm" with anyone expecting me to start eating my dinner later than 7pm (even if going for evening meals out - where I can go a bit later...because I'm having a social evening out and therefore later bedtime). It's surprising (disillusioning:() just how often a "late eater" will still expect an early eater to postpone their dinner to suit them - even after it's been carefully explained to them that a late dinner means a good chance of being woken up in the middle of the night by acid reflux. Someone who was a friend (I thought...) was being quite persistent wanting the later dinner they usually have and even thinking I would wait till 10pm to eat one night:eek: - despite the careful explanation I'd probably be ill if I did that. It's upsetting how selfish some people can be - and not care if their wishes would make someone else ill. So - hence one does have to be "firm" and refuse to have dinner late at night - no matter any pressure to do so.

I've also had to explain to another owl (not lark) friend why her elderly mother wasnt being at all unreasonable (as friend was telling me she was) when elderly mum told her she couldnt eat late of an evening - as she would get ill with heartburn/acid reflux. It took quite some convincing for that friend to accept her mother had a genuine reason for having to have an early dinner - whether owl friend liked it or no.

Also - I'm changing my way of eating from genuinely healthy to super-healthy currently and that's also helping.

Fingers crossed - and I think I've knocked the heartburn/acid reflex on the head now.

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jk0 wrote: »

They were well past the date where anyone would want them.

The food or the gallstones?

fuddle

Thank you all for your feedback, money especially I thank you for your time.

Maryb I subscribe to the thought that its to do with too little stomach acid too which is why I don't like taking acid suppressants but I need time to heal so I'm taking them right now. My resting heart rate has dropped around 5bpm since doing so.

I'm now not eating after 6pm (bedtime is generally 10pm) I don't drink or smoke, head propped up at night, small healthy meals, the skinny jeans (pressure on my spincter) are gone, I'm working on losing weight as I have toomuch round my tummy and going forward when I'm stable and finished with the cardio and respiritory teams my GP is going to refer me to gastro to see if it's a weakened spincter letting the acid up or something I can help myself with. Lets face it, I can eat as much as a man. :cool: and can be pretty greedy where food is concerned.

money may I ask if ever you took omeprezole or the like for your acid reflux? I would love to beat this myself.

jk0

Bedsit_Bob wrote: »

The food or the gallstones?

You are welcome to either or both Bob.

Mojisola

maryb wrote: »

I read something about heartburn recently which seems completely counter-intuitive. Apparently you get it when you have too LITTLE stomach acid rather than too much. If there isn't enough to digest your food apparently it churns around violently trying to coat all your food and that's when it splashes up into your gullet.

Hmmmm Not sure about that.

It makes sense. The pyloric sphincter, which is the muscle which controls emptying of the stomach into the duodenum, is acid sensitive and it only relaxes when the acidity of the stomach is correct. If the stomach contents aren't acid enough, the sphincter won't open but the stomach compresses to try to empty itself and that can force the contents back up into the oesophagus.