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pineapple

GreyQueen wrote: »

Fireworks go off around Shoebox Towers from the point where they first go on sale, thru the 5th and then on until the beggars run out of them. Pretty tiresome and distressing for pets and people.

Some wicked people use fireworks to maim and torture wildlife, a pal who was a vet nurse told me things to whiten your hair...... horrible.

Call me out for a miserable s o d if ya like, but I wish fireworks were restricted to professional displays and not available for sale to the general public.

A few weeks ago. I was returning from a walk with my blind collie when there was a big bang and he bolted. Fortunately I got him back OK. It turns out that the village hall had been booked for a wedding anniversary celebration and a family (guests) were letting off fireworks on the adjacent river bank - a public space. I was yelling at them to stop as the dog was in such a state and the 'responsible adult' (who I called a moron - oops) said it was part of the celebration. Was it heck. All the other guests were inside the hall - he probably bribed his kids to go with the promise of fireworks. They agreed to wait till I got home before starting again but I live close by and the poor dog was still beside himself inside the house.
I believe they are supposed to get permission for public dos but it's immaterial anyway as it would have had the same impact in an adjacent garden. Wish I had known at that point that the village hall is not allowed to stage firework events as their insurance does not cover it so if it WAS 'official' they were contravening the terms of hire.
Also there are horses etc kept in a field 50 yards away.
I used to work in an area where fireworks were let off year round for family celebrations.
I guess Pineapple is officially a curmudgeon.

ivyleaf

We've had lots of fireworks around here for Diwali. which apparently is a five-day festival rather than just one.

Lyn - if Mr ivyleaf hears me say "God, he's a stupid man!" he knows exactly who I'm reading about!

mardatha

Anybody else think it's a wee bit scary or mind-boggling that there is a current epidemic of the real actual Black Death on the go?
Madagascar - pneumonic plague.

Mojisola

mardatha wrote: »

Anybody else think it's a wee bit scary or mind-boggling that there is a current epidemic of the real actual Black Death on the go?
Madagascar - pneumonic plague.

Plague never goes away - there are cases most years in the USA -
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/16/bubonic-plague-arizona-fleas-found-carrying-infectious-disease/570364001/

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Let's hope that there are still some effective antibiotics to deal with it and that the bacillus doesn't find a way to turn itself into a 'super bug' anytime soon!

maryb

Ordinary plague is endemic in large parts of the world but can be controlled but the pneumonic form is spread as easily as a cold, so, yes, I do find that quite alarming. When you think how far SARS spread back in the early 2000s helped by lots of international air travel, it's not hard to envisage it hitting the Northern hemisphere

Karmacat

mardatha wrote: »

Anybody else think it's a wee bit scary or mind-boggling that there is a current epidemic of the real actual Black Death on the go?
Madagascar - pneumonic plague.

It's not great, is it I was reading a Guardian article about the plague, and apparently there are 4 different types, one of which is airborne

Mojisola wrote: »

Plague never goes away - there are cases most years in the USA -
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/08/16/bubonic-plague-arizona-fleas-found-carrying-infectious-disease/570364001/

True, but that's about half a dozen deaths a year. In Madagascar, they're up to almost 100 deaths.
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/warnings/tourists-warned-as-the-plague-strikes-major-cities-in-madagascar/news-story/e0217aa37497cd0c976d0bcba225fa06

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Let's hope that there are still some effective antibiotics to deal with it and that the bacillus doesn't find a way to turn itself into a 'super bug' anytime soon!

Oh boy. And the aptly named headline of Antibiotic Apocalypse scaremongering will be upon us!



It's on the outskirts of the Madagascan capital, I believe, but I doubt it will get a grip here. It might though rats do get onto planes, and they make it through the precautions alive, and ill people who are asymptomatic do get on planes and *then* fall ill. I hope the health authorities up their health procedures ... though any international body that can appoint Robert Mugabe as WHO goodwill ambassador has got to be suspect

Mojisola

Karmacat wrote: »

True, but that's about half a dozen deaths a year. In Madagascar, they're up to almost 100 deaths.

I think that's a lot to do with the health care systems and living conditions in the different countries.

GreyQueen

I've read quite a bit about the Black Death (although it wasn't called that until long after the event) and the ramifications of such high mortality completely changed the course of history.

The scariest form is the pneumonic plague, the airborne one, is the one in Madagascar: http://uk.businessinsider.com/pneumonic-plague-black-death-outbreak-madagascar-2017-10?r=US&IR=T

Some descriptions from the Black Death indicate that there was bubonic and pneumonic plague, and that people were so terrified that some believed if you even looked at someone with the plague, you could catch it.

There are plague pits from the middle ages only about 300 yards from here.

Churchmouse

Grey queen ( and others), as the grandmother of a severely autistic grandson (who has multiple co-morbidities) can I please make a plea for a little more accommodation? My grandson could no more go to an organised display than he could perform brain surgery. He enjoys garden fireworks of the sort enjoyed by children 40 or more years ago...... silver rain, traffic lights, golden showers........ you get the drift. He enjoys watching others hold a sparkler but is not yet brave enough ( at 9 years old) to hold his own. He has little enough in his life that gives pleasure, do you really want to deny him this??? By all means control the ferocity of fireworks available for home use/purchase ( with me clapping ferociously on the sideline) but don't ban all domestic sales. Some kids just need/enjoy a bit of coloured smoke in their own back garden