Anger grows at The Boomers EU vandalism

Crashy_Time

ruggedtoast wrote: »

As reported on another thread. Osborne has announced there will be higher taxes and cuts in public spending.

These cuts better be pensions, and other pensioner benefits.

Its time for the boomers to get exactly what they voted for.

"Hmm...lets start with HB and raise Landlord Tax again"

Sapphire

mayonnaise wrote: »

No we don't have access to your desktop.

Thank you for the information. I've deleted the links.

danothy

ruggedtoast wrote: »

- The probable end of English as the lingua franca of Europe, and therefore their only competitive advantage against multi lingual Europeans

CLAPTON wrote: »

surely one of the most ludicrous scare stories that no-one will give credence to.

Unless of course you've ever worked in any sort of pan-European project with loads of multi-lingual Europeans and are only able to speak English yourself.

globalds

Today my clients were from Scotland and England
Yesterday from France .
Next Week my Dutch clients return to do some modifications and repairs.
The French team don't do much work over here as it a new market for them and are struggling with English, but with two laptops and google translate we can explain both the problems and remedial work to be carried out and any concerns over the process of the working day.

We have Italian , German and Polish speakers on our team and I am sure no one would expect an immediate change to the way we communicate.

I can not believe anyone would try to use such a plainly odd and undemocratic dictate to try to run down the choice of people who did not want any more of the idiotic decisions from Europe.

Perhaps Sturgeon will negotiate Scottish as the new main language.

wotsthat

I've come across my first regretful Brexiters. Family friends who now wish they'd voted remain.

There'll be a few more when the price of wine goes up.

BobQ

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The Leave Campaign lied about the consequences of voting us out of Europe. Enthusiastically supported by the right wing press.

Remember that Murdoch openly said he wants Britain out of the EU because their media regulation means he can't develop the monopoly over their newspapers and TV that he has in the UK.

David Cameron's flat footed and artless campaign to keep us in failed to frame any of the positive benefits of the EU to young people, and unlike in Scotland he didn't have the Daily Mail to promote Project Fear.

If young people had been told that leaving meant:

- No automatic right to live travel and work in EU member countries
- No right to study in EU universities
- The probable end of the Erasmus grant which funds university exchanges and paid graduate internships
- The probable end of English as the lingua franca of Europe, and therefore their only competitive advantage against multi lingual Europeans
- The further erosion of labour laws which are their only chance of getting careers rather than a succession of zero hours contracts

Then their vote would have been different.

You can't accuse young people of being callow and politically disengaged, then feed them tonnes of slurry and misinformation about a political issue and then complain that they didn't vote.

The problem is that sufficient numbers of your generation and the majority of the older generation believed what they were fed by Leave and the media. Like most aspects of politics these days, the evidence is available if you look and many could not be bothered.

Anyone who did not realise that your first three bullets and the last one were the case must be really stupid. The idea that it came as a complete shock after the vote is bizarre.

The idea that English will disappear from the EU is risible since it remains the international business language.

Leave lost because the Conservatives were deeply split on the EU, the Leave side whipped up unnecessary anti EU sentiments, including on immigration; and because Corbyn gave the impression he was secretly supporting Leave.

ruggedtoast

BobQ wrote: »

The problem is that sufficient numbers of your generation and the majority of the older generation believed what they were fed by Leave and the media. Like most aspects of politics these days, the evidence is available if you look and many could not be bothered.

Anyone who did not realise that your first three bullets and the last one were the case must be really stupid. The idea that it came as a complete shock after the vote is bizarre.

The idea that English will disappear from the EU is risible since it remains the international business language.

Leave lost because the Conservatives were deeply split on the EU, the Leave side whipped up unnecessary anti EU sentiments, including on immigration; and because Corbyn gave the impression he was secretly supporting Leave.

British English is the (I believe) unofficial lingua franca of the EU. They will keep using English because its a language they all speak, but there will be no reason to resist the gravitational pull of American English. Europe is the only place left, pretty much, that still defers to British English as being correct, though many high school students will say x y zee and tomayto now, even though its not what they learn in class.

It might not seem like much, and I doubt Leave voters would care either way, but that, along with the reduction in EU students we will educate, is another erosion of the UK's soft power that will never come back.

Conrad

NZ Has just offered to send her experienced global trade deal negotiators over to help us do deals accross the world

The Commonwealth deal will soon arrive

NAFTA Is said to want to talk trade with us now, so much for remains back of the queue clap trap

Such a great time to be alive and part of this revolution

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

I've come across my first regretful Brexiters. Family friends who now wish they'd voted remain.

There'll be a few more when the price of wine goes up.

Anxiety and change do hand in hand, but you will see a significant shift towards positive sentiment as people realise the magnificence of this revolution

ruggedtoast

Conrad wrote: »

NZ Has just offered to send her experienced global trade deal negotiators over to help us do deals accross the world

The Commonwealth deal will soon arrive

NAFTA Is said to want to talk trade with us now, so much for remains back of the queue clap trap

Such a great time to be alive and part of this revolution

Oh yes! New Zealand!! Thank God. We are saved now. Who needs Germany, France, Italy, and the 24 other places who comprise the largest economic zone on the planet.

We are about to get trade advice from a country whose main export requires mint sauce to work.

Thank God you Leave people won.