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  • Sapphire
    Sapphire Posts: 4,269 Forumite
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    Pointing out things are slightly better than at some other point in history doesn't change the fact the market thinks Brexit has created uncertainties. Stock markets fell globally, so this isn't just about some comments made by the in campaign.

    Everyone I know knew this would probably be the result, and that there would be a period of uncertainty before things settled – which they will.

    For me, the issues of sovereignty and democracy for the nations of the EU are perhaps the most important things. I want the politicians we elect to be accountable to us, and for us to be able to change them if they do not perform.

    Had this been purely about being part of an economic organisation, things may have been different, but it became clear to me that the EU bureaucracy would not change in any way, and was driving us towards a super-state run by Germany, without our consent. The actions of the EU officials clearly signal a dictatorship in the making, and I want no part of it. One size wouldn't fit all politically, as it clearly hasn't economically.

    The EU unelected bureaucrats have no controls over them by the populations of European nations, and it became clear to me that we were being told aggressively what to do by petty dictators like Juncker. I am not surprised other countries in the EU are very dissatisfied with Merkel's policies. How can someone who is supposedly intelligent behave in this way? Are they simply too remote and stuck in their own little club to have anticipated what this would lead to?:(
  • lovinituk
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    The pound vs the dollar was almost as low in February this year. Why weren't all the 'remainers' wetting their pants then? As justme111 says, markets and currency react all the time.
  • Thrugelmir
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    Stock markets fell globally, so this isn't just about some comments made by the in campaign.

    Which perhaps show how fragile everything actually is on a global level. Just happened to be Brexit that pulled the trigger. As yet nothing has even happened with regard to Brexit. Yet panic ensures. The question is why?
  • chris_m
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Which perhaps show how fragile everything actually is on a global level. Just happened to be Brexit that pulled the trigger. As yet nothing has even happened with regard to Brexit. Yet panic ensures. The question is why?

    Uncertainty.
  • CLAPTON
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    chris_m wrote: »
    Uncertainty.

    then there has been uncertainty for the last 50 years? is that the fault of the EU or simply normal behaviour?
  • Thrugelmir
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    chris_m wrote: »
    Uncertainty.

    Markets hate uncertainty. Brexit is simply exposing the fault lines that already exist.
  • CLAPTON
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Markets hate uncertainty. Brexit is simply exposing the fault lines that already exist.

    but uncertainty is practically a permanent state of affairs
  • justme111
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    With markets we all agree why. I can not help but wonder why panic on bbc which is supposed to be independent ..
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    justme111 wrote: »
    With markets we all agree why. I can not help but wonder why panic on bbc which is supposed to be independent ..
    I think we should have a referendum on whether the BBC should continue to be funded by the public!
  • kinger101
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    lovinituk wrote: »
    The pound vs the dollar was almost as low in February this year. Why weren't all the 'remainers' wetting their pants then? As justme111 says, markets and currency react all the time.

    Some of this would already have been priced in. There was actually a bit of a recovery leading up to the referendum, as most people anticipated the vote would be remain.

    People die all the time. It doesn't mean I didn't kill someone if I blow their head off with a shotgun.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
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