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Deutsche Bank toxic derivative losses

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  • AG47 wrote: »
    How are people going to pay for said shelter? If the financial/banking system goes down, when DB collapse can't be postponed any longer, or if currency collapses.

    Property will correct to true value from its manipulated bubble high.

    How are the government going to pay the police and justice system to force you out?
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    How are the government going to pay the police and justice system to force you out?

    Exactly right.

    As happened in Spain and Portugal tenants become squatters, only a few are successfully evicted, and they just find another squat. Property falls the through the floor.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • TrickyTree83
    TrickyTree83 Posts: 3,930 Forumite
    AG47 wrote: »
    Exactly right.

    As happened in Spain and Portugal tenants become squatters, only a few are successfully evicted, and they just find another squat. Property falls the through the floor.

    Saying precious metals are the way forward in a financial apocalypse assumes that the financial systems that we're used to, that failed, will continue to be used - money. What I'm saying is that the basic necessities for survival will become more important than trinkets and shiny things.

    But then I don't think any of this will come to pass, those with power and money at the moment will not want the current system to falter. Why would they? If I were in their position I wouldn't either.
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    Saying precious metals are the way forward in a financial apocalypse assumes that the financial systems that we're used to, that failed, will continue to be used - money. What I'm saying is that the basic necessities for survival will become more important than trinkets and shiny things.

    But then I don't think any of this will come to pass, those with power and money at the moment will not want the current system to falter. Why would they? If I were in their position I wouldn't either.

    Looking at past currency crisis' is always a good indication. Gold and silver bullion were very good protection every single time.

    But history doesn't always repeat exactly, it rhymes

    It will be a little different this time around.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • AG47
    AG47 Posts: 1,618 Forumite
    The ratings agencies still haven't downgraded DB!,,,,

    They have now lost any credibility they have left, and they will now be accountable when the big collapse of DB can't be postponed any more.
    Nothing has been fixed since 2008, it was just pushed into the future
  • Thrugelmir
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    AG47 wrote: »
    The ratings agencies still haven't downgraded DB!,,,,

    They have now lost any credibility they have left, and they will now be accountable when the big collapse of DB can't be postponed any more.

    Seems your forecast on an imminent downfall is wide of the mark. :shocked:

    Perhaps it's your credibility that's looking a little shakey. :eek:
  • Conrad
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Seems your forecast on an imminent downfall is wide of the mark. :shocked:

    Perhaps it's your credibility that's looking a little shakey. :eek:




    Maybe, but the 2008 crash tells us we should not necessarily ignore those lone voices warning us Banks are about to go pop. Did you see the film The Big Short? Handful of traders totally out on a limb as everyone else thought the likes of Bear Stearns just couldn't fail.
  • Thrugelmir
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Maybe, but the 2008 crash tells us we should not necessarily ignore those lone voices warning us Banks are about to go pop. Did you see the film The Big Short? Handful of traders totally out on a limb as everyone else thought the likes of Bear Stearns just couldn't fail.

    Times have moved on. DB is no doubt working every day to restructure the entire business. May not be visible to the naked eye but it's happening. Also under the watchful regulatory eye of the Bundesbank.
  • Sapphire
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    Oh, dear, Oh, dear – more bad news with regard to this bank just at the end of today (Friday). It might be interesting to see what happens on Monday…
  • Thrugelmir
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    Sapphire wrote: »
    Oh, dear, Oh, dear – more bad news with regard to this bank just at the end of today (Friday). It might be interesting to see what happens on Monday…

    Going to cut over 10,000 jobs. Trouble is in Germany takes 24-30 months to effect such changes.
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