Where is London?

Cornucopia

119 Miles at Sparkford Services on the A303 in Somerset...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.0332529,-2.5720607,3a,75y,345.83h,88.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slWoHtheuV7glU5nIHTwJvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

161 Miles just after the Taunton Junction of the M5...

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.0255334,-3.0547347,3a,37.5y,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXdjWuyTdnwXE7iRW8Thsxw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

NBLondon

AdrianC wrote: »

No, that's the only meaning that there is in the information. No other meaning exists within it, whatever you might want to read into it.

Oh yeah? Who made you King? There is insufficient information in the phrase "In London" to determine which boundary is meant - and that's the point of the discussion. Your choice of meaning is no more and no less correct than anyone else's. I drove from "In London" to "In Kent" and back yesterday - and there is a strip of no man's land if you go by the road signs; the Welcome to Bexley sign on the westbound carriageway of the A2 is is significantly west of the Welcome to Kent sign on the eastbound carriageway - if the political boundary is the only one - they should be approximately parallel. By comparison on the A25 the Surrey and Kent signs are almost back to back.

Cornucopia wrote: »

For couriers, it was a problem. Hopefully not any more with the advent of satnav.

Sadly not.... I live in suburban South London at 3 Something Road; there are only 2 addresses in my postcode me and next door. On the other side of the road is Whatever House, 2 Something Road with a different postcode and Flat 3, Whatever House is on the ground floor directly opposite my house. So couriers and tradespersons following the satnav are confronted with 2 Number 3 doors to choose from... unless they heard their satnav say "your destination is on the left" they have a good chance of getting it wrong. Temporary posties also get it wrong... I used to say "Number 3 with a- red door" until the awkward devils across the road decided to paint their was-white door red as well.

AdrianC

NBLondon wrote: »

Oh yeah? Who made you King? There is insufficient information in the phrase "In London" to determine which boundary is meant - and that's the point of the discussion.

There is no other boundary apart from the political boundary of the last London borough you leave before entering Kent County Council's territory.

I drove from "In London" to "In Kent" and back yesterday - and there is a strip of no man's land if you go by the road signs; the Welcome to Bexley sign on the westbound carriageway of the A2 is is significantly west of the Welcome to Kent sign on the eastbound carriageway - if the political boundary is the only one - they should be approximately parallel.

So somebody put a sign in the wrong place. Woo.

If I head into town along my usual route, I pass a sign telling me I'm entering Wales. If I head back, I don't pass any sign. Does that mean I never left? There must be several hundred of me there right now, even though I'm fairly sure I'm actually here.

HiToAll

Yooooo not the boss O' me

NBLondon

So by your logic... this morning I left London and passed through "not London", seeing a number of famous landmarks (which most people without your exalted knowledge would think were in London) and then re-entered London without ever leaving Greater London.

AdrianC

NBLondon wrote: »

So by your logic... this morning I left London and passed through "not London", seeing a number of famous landmarks (which most people without your exalted knowledge would think were in London) and then re-entered London without ever leaving Greater London.

I'd actually quite like you to explain how you got to there from what I've said in this thread, because I'm absolutely intrigued as to how you could possibly have misunderstood my posts so badly.

NBLondon

AdrianC wrote: »

I'd actually quite like you to explain how you got to there from what I've said in this thread, because I'm absolutely intrigued as to how you could possibly have misunderstood my posts so badly.

I'm using a mild form of reductio ad absurdum to demonstrate that your page 1 claim of

AdrianC wrote: »

There may be argument, but that doesn't affect the fact that the border is very definite, very clear, and very unambiguous. If you are in a London Borough, then you are in London. If you are not, then you aren't. It is that simple.

and subsequent insistence that such is the only definition of "in London" is mistaken.

I left the London Borough of Southwark, crossed the City of London (which is NOT a London Borough) passing St Paul's Cathedral (amongst other famous places) before entering the London Borough of Camden.

AdrianC

<chuckle> Fair cop. I'd forgotten that, while the City is one of the 33 districts of Greater London, it's not actually one of the 32 boroughs.

But, that minor wrinkle apart...

NBLondon

Nobody's perfect Adrian - I didn't know that Middlesex didn't exist except as a cricket team...