Trickle vents - yes or no?

Furts

Kiran wrote: »

Multi locking point windows still engage all the locking pins when on the night latch. Therefore your window is still secure and your insurance is still valid. When you insure the house you select multi point locking pvc windows, this is what your insurance is based on and you have all these locks engaged.

The real world practicailties are this is true, but it is child's play to prise open a window on night latch setting. Any good screwdriver, or nail bar will suffice for this - which is why burglars are known to regularly carry them around.

With this in mind there are posts earlier mentioning security, and extolling the peace of mind with trickle vents. I back this thought process.

Kiran

Agree with what you are saying and with unreinforced UPVC, i.e. no steel inside you are absolutely correct. My point wasn't the level of security that is provided by a UPVC window, it was that the level of security is the same irrespective of the window being fully closed or on the night latch.

cajef

Kiran wrote: »

it was that the level of security is the same irrespective of the window being fully closed or on the night latch.

See post #26 in the thread.

Well we have to agree to differ on that point and I would like to see a link to an insurance companies T&C's on your insurance theory that any windows on a night latch have the same level of cover when a property is unoccupied.

lstar337

My thoughts are that it would be possible to apply more force to a partially open window, as you be able to use a lever and or get a better grip on it.

With a fully closed window, you wouldn't be able to get as much purchase on the window itself, and you would have no gap to insert a significant sized lever.

I wouldn't leave any downstairs window on a night-latch over night, or while I was out.

phil24_7

It's much easier to crack a euro lock or smash a window (hole punch on double glazing is quite quiet) to gain entry to a property and is how the vast majority of burglary's are carried out. A 'jimmy' is harder to conceal that a medium sized flat bladed screwdriver and a hole punch.

Silver-Surfer_2

phil24_7 wrote: »

It's much easier to crack a euro lock or smash a window (hole punch on double glazing is quite quiet) to gain entry to a property and is how the vast majority of burglary's are carried out. A 'jimmy' is harder to conceal that a medium sized flat bladed screwdriver and a hole punch.

They don't use anything that sofisticated Phil, an old spark plug does it.

leveller2911

If trickle vents are such a good idea then why are they no longer compulsory on new Windows (unless the existing ones had them)?. They do nothing for the thermal integrity of a window and look horrible imo.

phil24_7

Silver-Surfer wrote: »

They don't use anything that sofisticated Phil, an old spark plug does it.

Some do, some don't. Spark plugs ain't free and you only need buy a punch once!

Silver-Surfer_2

phil24_7 wrote: »

Some do, some don't. Spark plugs ain't free and you only need buy a punch once!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:Buy?:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

phil24_7

Ha ha. Many places don't keep spark plugs on a shelf anymore. Due to the massive amount of options they are kept back of house and picked by the salesperson but I get your point!